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  • Humans have been around for 100,000 years. While the dinosaurs have ruled the earth for 170 million years. But what if 7.5 billion humans come face to face with dinosaurs. The population for the dinosaurs is 7.5 billion, just to make it even. Who would win, the dominance for the Earth and who can become to most successful species to ever walk the Earth? Before you share you're own opinion, I'll say the Prehistoric Reptiles.

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    • .... Are any of the humans armed. At all.

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    • Yes. But we are excluding nukes because it might not be fair. It would be illegal to kill off animals with nukes so yeah. Humans guns and stuff like that. Fighters jet, Navy ships, and tanks. But I still think dinosaurs would win.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote: Yes. But we are excluding nukes because it might not be fair. It would be illegal to kill off animals with nukes so yeah. Humans guns and stuff like that. Fighters jet, Navy ships, and tanks. But I still think dinosaurs would win.

      We have BOMBS, man. Dinosaurs aren’t bulletproof killing machines, they’re animals, and any animal can be killed with a bomb, since nothing has evolved to survive that on a large-scale level. Even barring nukes, a strong enough explosive will cause SERIOUS damage to any dinosaur, if not kill them. Guns can kill a tyrannosaur fairly easily too. Fighter jets have missiles, and as stated before, bomb + dinosaur = chunky tyrannosalsa. Humans are really good at killing things, mind you. Hell, the caveman era pretty much doomed the mammalian megafauna, like mastodons and sabertooth cats.

      So realistically, humans win.

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    • Nah. People never get this. Dinosaurs ARE BIGGER than any Mammoths. So no you're wrong Dinosaurs win. Also there's Marine Reptiles and Flying Reptiles so humans would lose. There's bulletproof crocodiles. Gustave is an example. Ankylosaurus has thick armor like a crocodile. So no Dinosaurs can wipe out humanity.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote: Nah. People never get this. Dinosaurs ARE BIGGER than any Mammoths. So no you're wrong Dinosaurs win. Also there's Marine Reptiles and Flying Reptiles so humans would lose. There's bulletproof crocodiles. Gustave is an example. Ankylosaurus has thick armor like a crocodile. So no Dinosaurs can wipe out humanity.

      Size does not automatically equal durability. A well placed shot will literally turn a Rex’s brain/heart to mush. Bar that, did you...not read the part about bombs, literally meant to destroy anything in range/cause chaos? We has to make things bombproof, and even an ankylosaur is no match for a well placed missile.

      Marine reptiles? Torpedoes. Again, bombs + anything that isn’t bomb-proofed = death.

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    • Well. Humans will die. I bet you forgot something. Evolution. They may be more intelligent when they once were. The dinosaurs can kill millions of people each year. I think our population will start going down until he either die out or leave the planet. But it CAN go either way. All we know is both sides will not back down without a fight. But remember this, Dinosaurs are the most successful land animals to ever walk the earth. They roam the earth way longer than humans. So they have more experience than humans do. Paleontologist think we can't even compete with the dinosaurs. The raptors can kill many people without us noticing.

      Mosasaurus can attack submarines. Pterosaurs can attack fighter jets. They may ever bring disease we never seen before. The dinosaurs might be able to fell the sight of the nukes. They will attack humans if they see us as a threat. Nature beats humanity and that's a fact. We can't beat the forces of nature. We can't beat it. Nature will find a way to outsmart us. We can't prevent it.

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    • Humans win. Our intelligence and technology prevent us from being wiped out by primitive animals.

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    • Well. What if the dinosaur brought diseases. It can weaken our population. I bet you are forgetting this. Nature beats mankind. Always. Also even the most intelligent species get outcompeted.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote: Well. Humans will die. I bet you forgot something. Evolution. They may be more intelligent when they once were. The dinosaurs can kill millions of people each year. I think our population will start going down until he either die out or leave the planet. But it CAN go either way. All we know is both sides will not back down without a fight. But remember this, Dinosaurs are the most successful land animals to ever walk the earth. They roam the earth way longer than humans. So they have more experience than humans do. Paleontologist think we can't even compete with the dinosaurs. The raptors can kill many people without us noticing.

      Mosasaurus can attack submarines. Pterosaurs can attack fighter jets. They may ever bring disease we never seen before. The dinosaurs might be able to fell the sight of the nukes. They will attack humans if they see us as a threat. Nature beats humanity and that's a fact. We can't beat the forces of nature. We can't beat it. Nature will find a way to outsmart us. We can't prevent it.

      Okay, now you’re just bullshitting here. Do you honestly, 100% certainly believe that we’re just flimsy bags of plastic with weapons? A mosa can attack a submarine. It’ll get its jaws broken AND IF YOU DARE SAY MOSA COULD DO IT IN FALLEN KINGDOM, YOU NEED TO SEEK HELP. A pterosaur could try to attack a jet, but it’s ultimately not gonna work. It’ll keep pecking uselessly before being obliterated. And you know what? We have diseases too. Dinosaurs could theoretically get a bad case of the flu and keel over, dead. We’re infinitely more coordinated than velociraptors, who mainly hunted alone. Bar that, you only said dinosaurs. Pterosaurs, though closely related are not dinosaurs. A mosasaur’s closest relative is a monitor like a Komodo, because mosas evolved from a varanid that took to the sea. Every living thing on this earth fears fire. Guess what? We weaponized fire. We can just herd them together, and then carpet bomb all of them. tl;dr can you stop trying to bullshit your stupid “muh bulletproof dinos” crap. They’re animals, man. Not killing machines, not hatred in physical form (we have wasps for that,) just. Animals. Animals that were here before us, and would absolutely notbe accustomed to a changed world, with death on a stick, on wheels, in the air, in the sea pointing at them. It’s frankly irritating that people like you try to perpetrate this belief, so stop it. Get educated.

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    • I'm educated. Get you're facts right. Velociraptors hunt in packs. You get you're facts right before commenting. Animals can defeat humanity. Nature can kill us. We are not invincible not even close. Not even an inch close. First of all, by the time we evolved and the dinosaurs are still alive. Dinosaurs will be much more intelligent than real life. So don't yell at me. Also I bet you're FOGETTING something, Mosasaurus have a powerful bite and for a powerful bite they need thick teeth.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote: I'm educated. Get you're facts right. Velociraptors hunt in packs. You get you're facts right before commenting. Animals can defeat humanity. Nature can kill us. We are not invincible not even close. Not even an inch close. First of all, by the time we evolved and the dinosaurs are still alive. Dinosaurs will be much more intelligent than real life. So don't yell at me. Also I bet you're FOGETTING something, Mosasaurus have a powerful bite and for a powerful bite they need thick teeth.

      >need thick teeth

      So... you’re completely ignoring jaw muscles and attachment sites? I know we’re not invincible. But you’re playing dinosaurs as if they’re invincible (kinda hypocritical there, my good sir) when they aren’t. Dinosaurs, again, are animals from an era long gone. They can’t just instantly evolve an immunity to explosives. Nature doesn’t work like that.

      >much more intelligent than real life

      You’re.... literally saying fictional dinosaurs are more intelligent than their IRL counterparts. Raptors were slightly smarter than dogs, Tyrannosaurus rex was about as smart as a monkey if we’re highballing. Nothing like Hollywood.

      Yeah, we’ve evolved with dinosaurs. But not the non-avian kinda like sauropods and dromaeosaurids. We’ve evolved alongside demon ostriches and man eating eagles. Guess what? We depleted those dinosaurs’ food sources, starving them.

      A dinosaur like a gorgosaurus can easily kill a human. But it’s not really built to take a shot to the heart. Ankylosaurs too, since their lower regions were more vulnerable.

      Please, I love dinosaurs too but we’d honestly wipe them out with our weapons.

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    • I said if the continue to evolve to modern day. We won't wipe them out. We will capture them and make parks.

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    • Dinosaurs aren't nature, just part of it. Nature in general, however, is far more powerful than humanity could ever imagine, especially if "nature" includes all phenomena of this (and other if that theory is proven) reality(ies). Bombs, guns, and other killing machines can kill dinosaurs, they aren't invincible.

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    • Hand to hand combat, is different. The strongest human on earth would be torn apart by even a medium sized theropod, never mind the large ones.

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    • An army of humans, with guns, tanks, and other (barbaric) crap would kill tons of prehistoric creatures if they were put up head to head.

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    • This seems like it's turning into an argument. If you both keeps this up, I'll have to block you for a day or two. Just a fair warning.

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    • Okie. But wait. This is not a head to head battle ish. But can't Dinosaurs plan an ambush or something???

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    • Four words

      The Great Emu War of 1932

      Sam O'Nella Academy's video

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    • Oh.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote:
      Well. What if the dinosaur brought diseases. It can weaken our population. I bet you are forgetting this. Nature beats mankind. Always. Also even the most intelligent species get outcompeted.

      We're the ones wiping out animal species. I don't see how we could stuggle much more with another superorder.

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    • We are basically destroying ourselves. According to one of the scientists. But in many countries, killing off species is illegal. We can only kill off invasive species not the natives. We are trying to do that in the Everglades. I don't think we are going the nuke them because we are damaging the environment. So they need another way to fight them.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote:
      We are basically destroying ourselves. According to one of the scientists. But in many countries, killing off species is illegal. We can only kill off invasive species not the natives. We are trying to do that in the Everglades. I don't think we are going the nuke them because we are damaging the environment. So they need another way to fight them.

      But still in the process we're basically caught up in our own selfish lives, that we may say we regard saving the Earth, but that is really an ironic statement and commercialized gimmick to satisfy ourselves. For example, if we were to kill off the last Tigers and Hornbills, many people wouldn't care. Only thing that would stand to our minds is that "our kids" wouldn't be able to see or we would never be able to learn more about them".

      In addition the Earth has been destroying everything on it by natural environment change, laws of nature, natural disasters, and global warming. We're just helping speed up the process.

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    • Hm.

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    • With bombs, humans would win, but otherwise, definitely dinosaurs. With guns or anything less then bombs, still no. Even with a population of one thousand tiny mesozoic mammals per continent versus billions of unarmed humans, humans would still go extinct, probably around the same time as the small mammals.

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    • AuroraBorealis1972 wrote:
      With bombs, humans would win, but otherwise, definitely dinosaurs. With guns or anything less then bombs, still no. Even with a population of one thousand tiny mesozoic mammals per continent versus billions of unarmed humans, humans would still go extinct, probably around the same time as the small mammals.

      No. Because if we used all those things to extinguish an entire species we'd have severe consequences for it that will faced. In the mission to kill off all non-avian dinosaurs with warheads as such as bombs would be destruction of the Earth's lifeforms, it just only delay the inevitable especially since in the Great Emu war, the government used bombs to kill thousands of emus, but the groups were so high in number and cooperative that in any danger the Emus would disperse into smaller groups. By doing so we would end up destroying ourselves, ecosystems, and other animal species. Let's face it when God planned our evolution it was like a cruel joke cause compared to most animals, arthropods and our earlier ancestors alike we are the weakest species to ever exist in the animal kingdom. In order to genocide an entire species or safely transport them away from human interaction, you'd have to be a Saiyan in order to do that. 

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    • Yeah. I agree. If we can't destroy them with bombs, we will either have to find another way to fight them or just coexist with them. I also agree we are the weakest species, because we aren't good at fighting with hands. We use tools. So that is a huge advantage for the dinosaurs. But it would be interesting to see how the dinosaurs and humans have to learn how to coexist or fight for dominance for the planet.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote:
      Yeah. I agree. If we can't destroy them with bombs, we will either have to find another way to fight them or just coexist with them. I also agree we are the weakest species, because we aren't good at fighting with hands. We use tools. So that is a huge advantage for the dinosaurs. But it would be interesting to see how the dinosaurs and humans have to learn how to coexist or fight for dominance for the planet.

      That's partially where I draw the line in the limits of humans. Most humans now are very weak that we can't come close to catching a single fly. But there was a time when we humans were highly combative and experienced fighters with both weapons and their hands, to where stories about warriors had the feats to wrestle Elephants and pick up Trees and Boulders, and even the severe wounds inflicted had showed no bounds to these warriors' limits, man nor women. And that time was the days the Pleistocene and Plato. 

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    • Also I forgot the mention this, we are running out of natural gas. Plus our population might be weakened, due by going to war with other countries. If that really happens and we start fighting for dominance with the dinosaurs, then we will get destroyed. We are running out of weapons, and we may have to use all of our natural gases and weapons to fight them off. If we use all of it and used all of our weapons, we have no choice but to accept defeat. If the dinosaurs are still standing.

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    • Remeber: This isn't Pacific Rim, the dinos wouldn't be hellbent on the extinction of mankind and visa versa. Because not all dinosaurs are carnivores this means the dinosaurs will also be going to war with each other, so it balances out. The questions we need to ask are - What is the species distribution of the dinosaurs? and, What is the geographical distribution of the dinosaurs? If all 7.5 billion are tyrannosaurus and appear in one spot at one time, that spot is going to be destroyed in mere minutes. But if 7.5 billion archaeopteryx appear spread among the entire world at once, we just have an overpopulation of birds.

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    • Individually without any weapons, dinosaurs would win. With guns, however, humans win. Dinosaurs are quite possibly the most dangerous (and largest) land predators of all time (aside from humans).

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    • An interesting take on this is; what if we brought back non-avian dinosaurs, only to be infected with a humanity-extinction causing pathogen?.

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    • MemoryAngel wrote: An interesting take on this is; what if we brought back non-avian dinosaurs, only to be infected with a humanity-extinction causing pathogen?.

      I’d say we dun fucked up then. But likewise, who knows if the common cold could kill a Tyrannosaurus?

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    • Actually. It's a 50/50. It really depends when it takes place. If it takes place in modern day, I'll say dinosaurs because we are in war. War weakens our population. Famine and droughts can weaken our population. If the dinosaurs brought disease then we are dead. Not every disease can be cured. Also finding a cure takes years, by the time they found it it might be too late since the human population is small.

      Also it's possible dinosaurs faced more deadly diseases than us. Also we highly depend on technology, well most of us. But remember, we can't nuke them. Even if we can, they would've moved to another area. But I don't know how humans can beat dinosaurs. We are running out of natural gas. We are going to war with other members of our species.

      I mean for us to fight the dinosaurs, we must use almost all of our weapons, if not all. We need fossil fuel and so on. Like I said, if we use all of it and the dinosaurs ARE still standing. We will have to accept defeat. Otherwise, we can just learn to either coexist with them. Either way, we are going to cause our own extinction if we use nukes. We are going to kill millions if not billions of people.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote:
      Actually. It's a 50/50. It really depends when it takes place. If it takes place in modern day, I'll say dinosaurs because we are in war. War weakens our population. Famine and droughts can weaken our population. If the dinosaurs brought disease then we are dead. Not every disease can be cured. Also finding a cure takes years, by the time they found it it might be too late since the human population is small.

      Also it's possible dinosaurs faced more deadly diseases than us. Also we highly depend on technology, well most of us. But remember, we can't nuke them. Even if we can, they would've moved to another area. But I don't know how humans can beat dinosaurs. We are running out of natural gas. We are going to war with other members of our species.

      I mean for us to fight the dinosaurs, we must use almost all of our weapons, if not all. We need fossil fuel and so on. Like I said, if we use all of it and the dinosaurs ARE still standing. We will have to accept defeat. Otherwise, we can just learn to either coexist with them. Either way, we are going to cause our own extinction if we use nukes. We are going to kill millions if not billions of people.

      The small problem with those diseases though is that a lot of them are very primitive versions of the ones we have now like Cancer. Since our technology has improved I don't think us humans would die off, but it would up to corporates to decide how they want to the help. That is our biggest problem today, corruption, greed, and politics.

      And even the dinosaurs somehow survived "Ground Zero", and migrated else where they would spread the radiation attached to their skin, contaminanting everything around them, including plants and other animals, so coexistence with the dinosaurs wouldn't be an option. No matter what period in time they are set in, it all comes down as a 20/90 chance of survival. What it was like for people on the Oregon trail...would be 10x worst. Up against a Tyrannosaurus rex a person has a low survival chance, dinosaurs would push back into hiding like they did our small mammalian ancestors, forcing underground and to live above the trees. Searching for minerals and whilst harvesting and hunting for food would a challenge even beating our days in the Pleistocene. And since then we've grown weaker. We can try to tame the dinosaurs, but that doesn't mean our population will be the least our concern considering all the disasters and sick bastards killing us off everyday.

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    • But I don't think the disease will kill everyone. It may kill at least 80% of people if they don't find the cure in time. But if we decided to fight the dinosaurs for dominance, it's clear mother side is backing down without a fight. I don't think the dinosaurs will ever except defeat. Humans will except defeat. Dinosaurs breed faster than Humans and they can reach maturity, for some species much more quicker.

      So breeding is the main problem. But like I said, I don't think humans will back down without a fight. Heck, I bet we will continue to fight back until we either win, either lose too many people, lost all of our weapons and natural gas, or if the Government says we can just coexist with them. I mean we have the weapons to fight back, our things are limited.

      The dinosaurs, marine reptiles, and pterosaurs are perhaps the only non microorganism animals to challenge humans all the way to the end. Yes, elephants and other mammals do challenge us but the dinosaurs are much more aggressive than all species that are alive today. In reality, we may just coexist with them. But if we are going to fight them then I'll say dinosaurs.

      Remember this guys, dinosaurs aren't dumb. They are more intelligent THAN any reptile on the entire planet. Speaking of that, Troodn (yes we are including all dinosaurs, and possibly pterosaurs and marine reptiles.), Troodon, several Raptor species, and Tyrannosaurus rex are the most intelligent dinosaurs. They can learn our weaknesses. That what animals do, they try to learn our weaknesses. If they can find our weaknesses then we're going to lose if. If they don't then I don't know who would win.

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    • Who's to say there would even be a disease in the first place?

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    • Me. Because if we do it realistically, we will face a disease.

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    • Is it allowed to use biological and chemical weapons ? Or the possible use of heavily armed weapons against the theropods ?

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    • No chemical weapons or biological weapons. Just tanks and guns.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote: No chemical weapons or biological weapons. Just tanks and guns.

      Theropods would most likely loose on the human inhabited areas but the extremely forested areas like amazon; congo; would become uninhabited by human as Theropods would claim those areas; smaller dinosaurs would become almost pest-like; similiar to the huge pigeon populations of urban cities today; speculatively

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    • The dragnor wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote: No chemical weapons or biological weapons. Just tanks and guns.

      Theropods would most likely loose on the human inhabited areas but the extremely forested areas like amazon; congo; would become uninhabited by human as Theropods would claim those areas; smaller dinosaurs would become almost pest-like; similiar to the huge pigeon populations of urban cities today; speculatively

      Dude are you literally serious? There are many theropods that were adapted to open areas, the city or town to a Raptor or a T.Rex respectively will be like a field day to them, even if they can't enter a locked house these predators weren't dumb, they special hunting traits are have prepared against certain obstacles such as buildings, they could just bust right through. These aren't the tail-dragging ferocious we saw in stop-motion documentaries and B-Movie films. These animals would be highly adapted to all these said areas.

      The only true place a human would be safe is in a cave, underground, the trees, or a Fortress, and 3 out of those 4 can only be safe for so long. Meat-Eating theropods scowered across all the biomes in their regions, and even if any did wonder into a city, I'm sure a pack of Allosaurus would create a mass wave of destruction and deaths by the 100s, and that's inadvertently.

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    • Ibarber wrote:
      The dragnor wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote: No chemical weapons or biological weapons. Just tanks and guns.

      Theropods would most likely loose on the human inhabited areas but the extremely forested areas like amazon; congo; would become uninhabited by human as Theropods would claim those areas; smaller dinosaurs would become almost pest-like; similiar to the huge pigeon populations of urban cities today; speculatively
      Dude are you literally serious? There are many theropods that were adapted to open areas, the city or town to a Raptor or a T.Rex respectively will be like a field day to them, even if they can't enter a locked house these predators weren't dumb, they special hunting traits are have prepared against certain obstacles such as buildings, they could just bust right through. These aren't the tail-dragging ferocious we saw in stop-motion documentaries and B-Movie films. These animals would be highly adapted to all these said areas.

      The only true place a human would be safe is in a cave, underground, the trees, or a Fortress, and 3 out of those 4 can only be safe for so long. Meat-Eating theropods scowered across all the biomes in their regions, and even if any did wonder into a city, I'm sure a pack of Allosaurus would create a mass wave of destruction and deaths by the 100s, and that's inadvertently.

      Severely disagreed. United States Military level weapons're allowed. The only things that aren't allowed are nukes/bio & chemical weapons. Just look at the current military level of the planet. Suicidal theropods would be killed off so quickly and so massively; you would be shocked. Ammo; New tech Guns; rockets; launchers; everything is allowed; there would be a blood/gore house caused by humans. Just look at the efficiency of any weapon; theropods couldn't stand a chance; except the runners; rockets and large ammunition weapons would easily tore a theropod into sushi pieces and the flamethrowers burn the smaller ones; a raptor stands zero chance against an AK-47; and how about the weaponized jets; helicopters; orbital weapons...etc.

      Weapons are the Common Sense. 

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    • The dragnor wrote:
      Ibarber wrote:
      The dragnor wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote: No chemical weapons or biological weapons. Just tanks and guns.

      Theropods would most likely loose on the human inhabited areas but the extremely forested areas like amazon; congo; would become uninhabited by human as Theropods would claim those areas; smaller dinosaurs would become almost pest-like; similiar to the huge pigeon populations of urban cities today; speculatively
      Dude are you literally serious? There are many theropods that were adapted to open areas, the city or town to a Raptor or a T.Rex respectively will be like a field day to them, even if they can't enter a locked house these predators weren't dumb, they special hunting traits are have prepared against certain obstacles such as buildings, they could just bust right through. These aren't the tail-dragging ferocious we saw in stop-motion documentaries and B-Movie films. These animals would be highly adapted to all these said areas.

      The only true place a human would be safe is in a cave, underground, the trees, or a Fortress, and 3 out of those 4 can only be safe for so long. Meat-Eating theropods scowered across all the biomes in their regions, and even if any did wonder into a city, I'm sure a pack of Allosaurus would create a mass wave of destruction and deaths by the 100s, and that's inadvertently.

      Severely disagreed. United States Military level weapons're allowed. The only things that aren't allowed are nukes/bio & chemical weapons. Just look at the current military level of the planet. Suicidal theropods would be killed off so quickly and so massively; you would be shocked. Ammo; New tech Guns; rockets; launchers; everything is allowed; there would be a blood/gore house caused by humans. Just look at the efficiency of any weapon; theropods couldn't stand a chance; except the runners; rockets and large ammunition weapons would easily tore a theropod into sushi pieces and the flamethrowers burn the smaller ones; a raptor stands zero chance against an AK-47; and how about the weaponized jets; helicopters; orbital weapons...etc.

      Weapons are the Common Sense. 

      Yeah but it's hard to use those weapons on a city street when you have tons of people who need help. Any explosion and more people could be killed than dinosaurs. Also, we don't even know how a human would react to a pack of Allosaurus charging at them. All Dinoanime said was tanks and guns, that wouldn't help much against a charging herd of Bruhathkayosaurus. And besides, the humans would struggle to fight off dromaeosaurs and medium carnivores and since there are so many I doubt they could be fast enough to stop them like they would in a movie. And there would be more "Clever girl" moments than you can count. Raptors are smart.

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    • Hypnobrai wrote:

      The dragnor wrote:
      Ibarber wrote:
      The dragnor wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote: No chemical weapons or biological weapons. Just tanks and guns.

      Theropods would most likely loose on the human inhabited areas but the extremely forested areas like amazon; congo; would become uninhabited by human as Theropods would claim those areas; smaller dinosaurs would become almost pest-like; similiar to the huge pigeon populations of urban cities today; speculatively
      Dude are you literally serious? There are many theropods that were adapted to open areas, the city or town to a Raptor or a T.Rex respectively will be like a field day to them, even if they can't enter a locked house these predators weren't dumb, they special hunting traits are have prepared against certain obstacles such as buildings, they could just bust right through. These aren't the tail-dragging ferocious we saw in stop-motion documentaries and B-Movie films. These animals would be highly adapted to all these said areas.

      The only true place a human would be safe is in a cave, underground, the trees, or a Fortress, and 3 out of those 4 can only be safe for so long. Meat-Eating theropods scowered across all the biomes in their regions, and even if any did wonder into a city, I'm sure a pack of Allosaurus would create a mass wave of destruction and deaths by the 100s, and that's inadvertently.

      Severely disagreed. United States Military level weapons're allowed. The only things that aren't allowed are nukes/bio & chemical weapons. Just look at the current military level of the planet. Suicidal theropods would be killed off so quickly and so massively; you would be shocked. Ammo; New tech Guns; rockets; launchers; everything is allowed; there would be a blood/gore house caused by humans. Just look at the efficiency of any weapon; theropods couldn't stand a chance; except the runners; rockets and large ammunition weapons would easily tore a theropod into sushi pieces and the flamethrowers burn the smaller ones; a raptor stands zero chance against an AK-47; and how about the weaponized jets; helicopters; orbital weapons...etc.

      Weapons are the Common Sense. 

      Yeah but it's hard to use those weapons on a city street when you have tons of people who need help. Any explosion and more people could be killed than dinosaurs. Also, we don't even know how a human would react to a pack of Allosaurus charging at them. All Dinoanime said was tanks and guns, that wouldn't help much against a charging herd of Bruhathkayosaurus. And besides, the humans would struggle to fight off dromaeosaurs and medium carnivores and since there are so many I doubt they could be fast enough to stop them like they would in a movie. And there would be more "Clever girl" moments than you can count. Raptors are smart.

      There're several extremely well trained soldiers; snipers and human assasins who would easily kill an allosaur with a single bullet to the head; of course several humans panic; I never said victory comes for free/without a cost; all battles have their tolls; but in general humans would win rather easily; several countries've emergency plans and procedures; usa even has emergrncy plans for literal zombie appocalypse!  :D I am very sure a well aimed tank would kill a poor allosaurus; and infighting between dinosaurs themselves would gave humans another huge advantage; A automatic rocket launcher would terrify and destroy ao many dinosaurs; herbivore & omnivore dinosaurs'ld domesticated easily just like how humans domesticate even eagles by this point. Afterall I would bet on humans; dinosaurs were nowhere smart; or have the capabilities of a human :)

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    • The dragnor wrote:

      Hypnobrai wrote:

      The dragnor wrote:
      Ibarber wrote:
      The dragnor wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote: No chemical weapons or biological weapons. Just tanks and guns.

      Theropods would most likely loose on the human inhabited areas but the extremely forested areas like amazon; congo; would become uninhabited by human as Theropods would claim those areas; smaller dinosaurs would become almost pest-like; similiar to the huge pigeon populations of urban cities today; speculatively
      Dude are you literally serious? There are many theropods that were adapted to open areas, the city or town to a Raptor or a T.Rex respectively will be like a field day to them, even if they can't enter a locked house these predators weren't dumb, they special hunting traits are have prepared against certain obstacles such as buildings, they could just bust right through. These aren't the tail-dragging ferocious we saw in stop-motion documentaries and B-Movie films. These animals would be highly adapted to all these said areas.

      The only true place a human would be safe is in a cave, underground, the trees, or a Fortress, and 3 out of those 4 can only be safe for so long. Meat-Eating theropods scowered across all the biomes in their regions, and even if any did wonder into a city, I'm sure a pack of Allosaurus would create a mass wave of destruction and deaths by the 100s, and that's inadvertently.

      Severely disagreed. United States Military level weapons're allowed. The only things that aren't allowed are nukes/bio & chemical weapons. Just look at the current military level of the planet. Suicidal theropods would be killed off so quickly and so massively; you would be shocked. Ammo; New tech Guns; rockets; launchers; everything is allowed; there would be a blood/gore house caused by humans. Just look at the efficiency of any weapon; theropods couldn't stand a chance; except the runners; rockets and large ammunition weapons would easily tore a theropod into sushi pieces and the flamethrowers burn the smaller ones; a raptor stands zero chance against an AK-47; and how about the weaponized jets; helicopters; orbital weapons...etc.

      Weapons are the Common Sense. 

      Yeah but it's hard to use those weapons on a city street when you have tons of people who need help. Any explosion and more people could be killed than dinosaurs. Also, we don't even know how a human would react to a pack of Allosaurus charging at them. All Dinoanime said was tanks and guns, that wouldn't help much against a charging herd of Bruhathkayosaurus. And besides, the humans would struggle to fight off dromaeosaurs and medium carnivores and since there are so many I doubt they could be fast enough to stop them like they would in a movie. And there would be more "Clever girl" moments than you can count. Raptors are smart.

      There're several extremely well trained soldiers; snipers and human assasins who would easily kill an allosaur with a single bullet to the head; of course several humans panic; I never said victory comes for free/without a cost; all battles have their tolls; but in general humans would win rather easily; several countries've emergency plans and procedures; usa even has emergrncy plans for literal zombie appocalypse! :D I am very sure a well aimed tank would kill a poor allosaurus; and infighting between dinosaurs themselves would gave humans another huge advantage; A automatic rocket launcher would terrify and destroy ao many dinosaurs; herbivore & omnivore dinosaurs'ld domesticated easily just like how humans domesticate even eagles by this point. Afterall I would bet on humans; dinosaurs were nowhere smart; or have the capabilities of a human :)

      You do realize Allosaurus is more jaws than head right? The jaw made up most of its head that's not accounting the precise location of the head. And doesn't matter...well trained or not a single would not kill an Allosaurus let alone a pack. Allosaurus are also stealthy predators, if one is ever stalking you wouldn't be able to see it, you'd have to keep a full on guard of your surroundings at all times, that's not including that it might have counter-shading color scheme, and the time you see it it'll already be too late especially since Allosaurus can run about 30mph, which most humans can not reach unless they were athletes. Allosaurus are also quite smart animals far exceeding the T.Rex and Alligator in intelligence, so it would be comparable to the Tiger or Eagle.

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    • +Ibarber Look at the weapon models and the piercing weapon bullets; they would easily tore down any dinosaur apart; soldiers are know how to explode real buildings dinosaurs would be easy target; plus; There're drones

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    • I think I heard this but. During the Jurassic and the Cretaceous, Dinosaurs outnumbered mammals. Possibly the dinosaur population was higher than human population today. We are able to survive with several thousand of us for decades. Toba was a supervolcano that was able to nearly wipe us out. But Toba is nothing compared to the Deccan Traps. A volcano several hundred to several thousand times more powerful than any eruptions humans faced. Not to mention, Dinosaurs survived a mass extinction. The scary part is, we never faced one. So the dinosaurs have a advantage that I have a hard time saying. The dinosaurs have power and size while Humans have intelligence.

      Also Ibarber, I agree with struggling to fight the Raptors. They hunt in packs. If there's several humans then I think the group can take on a pack. But it depends how many raptors are in the pack. But let's be honest, it would take one pack to kill at least 30-100 people. Or 10-30.

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      +Ibarber Look at the weapon models and the piercing weapon bullets; they would easily tore down any dinosaur apart; soldiers are know how to explode real buildings dinosaurs would be easy target; plus; There're drones

      Forget the improvisation of weapons, none of that matters if you have a gang of Deinonychus, coming towards you, let alone a pack of Allosaurs. Look at what happened in the Great Emu War, the army shot and exploded the Emus yet the army still managed to lose thanks to 65 million years of pure instinct that the Emu still carries on and their vast numbers.

      Obviously you overestimate the power of humans a little too highly. If a band of soldiers riding a jeep with a the machine gun belted on couldn't kill an entire species of MODERN-DAY dinosaurs; then what makes think the U.S. Army would have a chance in hell against a herd of Ankylosaurus or a single Sauropoiseidon? Even non-dinosaurian creatures would proved to be a major threat to any army. It's not that easy fighting off dinosaurs and escaping either alive or unscathed...Dino Crisis 2 and The Lost World: Jurassic Park are pure proof of that.   

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    • It actually depends on how many allosaurs.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote:
      It actually depends on how many allosaurs.
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    • But however, we have the intelligence which is our main weapon. The dinosaurs have more experience in fighting because they don't need to use tools like us. If we include the Pterosaurs and Marine Reptiles, I think they could attack boats but I don't know about sumarines. If it could than I don't know what to say. But remember, Dinosaurs are probably the most intelligent Reptiles in Earth's history.

      I'm pretty sure a sauropod can knock down a tank.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote:
      But however, we have the intelligence which is our main weapon. The dinosaurs have more experience in fighting because they don't need to use tools like us. If we include the Pterosaurs and Marine Reptiles, I think they could attack boats but I don't know about sumarines. If it could than I don't know what to say. But remember, Dinosaurs are probably the most intelligent Reptiles in Earth's history.

      I'm pretty sure a sauropod can knock down a tank.

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    • Hey.

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    • Hm. Dinosaurs won't really attack cities unless if they were forced to. For example, drought.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote: Hm. Dinosaurs won't really attack cities unless if they were forced to. For example, drought.

      Or if they are wandering into one.

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    • Beastloader wrote: Remeber: This isn't Pacific Rim, the dinos wouldn't be hellbent on the extinction of mankind and visa versa. Because not all dinosaurs are carnivores this means the dinosaurs will also be going to war with each other, so it balances out. The questions we need to ask are - What is the species distribution of the dinosaurs? and, What is the geographical distribution of the dinosaurs? If all 7.5 billion are tyrannosaurus and appear in one spot at one time, that spot is going to be destroyed in mere minutes. But if 7.5 billion archaeopteryx appear spread among the entire world at once, we just have an overpopulation of birds.

      Dude. Even herbivorous dinosaurs are dangerous. They will eat our crops. Triceratops can severely damage a city. Stegosaurus can cause trouble for people trying to explore the forest. Also this concludes ever, single dinosaur species. Also you're forgetting they can move area to area.

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    • Ibarber wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote: Hm. Dinosaurs won't really attack cities unless if they were forced to. For example, drought.

      Or if they are wandering into one.

      İndividual or smaller dinosaur packs would/should be relatively easier to be ' deal with ' (ie. Terminated) Like bears

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    • The dragnor wrote:

      Ibarber wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote: Hm. Dinosaurs won't really attack cities unless if they were forced to. For example, drought.

      Or if they are wandering into one.

      İndividual or smaller dinosaur packs would/should be relatively easier to be ' deal with ' (ie. Terminated) Like bears

      Uh you do realize we are talking about an entire flock or gang or dinosaurs right; not a single bear?

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    • +Ibarber several dinosaurs species're unlikely being social; not all theropods & herbivores lived in units

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    • Ibarber wrote:

      The dragnor wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote: No chemical weapons or biological weapons. Just tanks and guns.

      Theropods would most likely loose on the human inhabited areas but the extremely forested areas like amazon; congo; would become uninhabited by human as Theropods would claim those areas; smaller dinosaurs would become almost pest-like; similiar to the huge pigeon populations of urban cities today; speculatively

      Dude are you literally serious? There are many theropods that were adapted to open areas, the city or town to a Raptor or a T.Rex respectively will be like a field day to them, even if they can't enter a locked house these predators weren't dumb, they special hunting traits are have prepared against certain obstacles such as buildings, they could just bust right through. These aren't the tail-dragging ferocious we saw in stop-motion documentaries and B-Movie films. These animals would be highly adapted to all these said areas.

      The only true place a human would be safe is in a cave, underground, the trees, or a Fortress, and 3 out of those 4 can only be safe for so long. Meat-Eating theropods scowered across all the biomes in their regions, and even if any did wonder into a city, I'm sure a pack of Allosaurus would create a mass wave of destruction and deaths by the 100s, and that's inadvertently.

      I have to agree with that.

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    • Ibarber wrote:

      The dragnor wrote:

      Hypnobrai wrote:

      The dragnor wrote:
      Ibarber wrote:
      The dragnor wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote: No chemical weapons or biological weapons. Just tanks and guns.

      Theropods would most likely loose on the human inhabited areas but the extremely forested areas like amazon; congo; would become uninhabited by human as Theropods would claim those areas; smaller dinosaurs would become almost pest-like; similiar to the huge pigeon populations of urban cities today; speculatively
      Dude are you literally serious? There are many theropods that were adapted to open areas, the city or town to a Raptor or a T.Rex respectively will be like a field day to them, even if they can't enter a locked house these predators weren't dumb, they special hunting traits are have prepared against certain obstacles such as buildings, they could just bust right through. These aren't the tail-dragging ferocious we saw in stop-motion documentaries and B-Movie films. These animals would be highly adapted to all these said areas.

      The only true place a human would be safe is in a cave, underground, the trees, or a Fortress, and 3 out of those 4 can only be safe for so long. Meat-Eating theropods scowered across all the biomes in their regions, and even if any did wonder into a city, I'm sure a pack of Allosaurus would create a mass wave of destruction and deaths by the 100s, and that's inadvertently.

      Severely disagreed. United States Military level weapons're allowed. The only things that aren't allowed are nukes/bio & chemical weapons. Just look at the current military level of the planet. Suicidal theropods would be killed off so quickly and so massively; you would be shocked. Ammo; New tech Guns; rockets; launchers; everything is allowed; there would be a blood/gore house caused by humans. Just look at the efficiency of any weapon; theropods couldn't stand a chance; except the runners; rockets and large ammunition weapons would easily tore a theropod into sushi pieces and the flamethrowers burn the smaller ones; a raptor stands zero chance against an AK-47; and how about the weaponized jets; helicopters; orbital weapons...etc.

      Weapons are the Common Sense. 

      Yeah but it's hard to use those weapons on a city street when you have tons of people who need help. Any explosion and more people could be killed than dinosaurs. Also, we don't even know how a human would react to a pack of Allosaurus charging at them. All Dinoanime said was tanks and guns, that wouldn't help much against a charging herd of Bruhathkayosaurus. And besides, the humans would struggle to fight off dromaeosaurs and medium carnivores and since there are so many I doubt they could be fast enough to stop them like they would in a movie. And there would be more "Clever girl" moments than you can count. Raptors are smart.

      There're several extremely well trained soldiers; snipers and human assasins who would easily kill an allosaur with a single bullet to the head; of course several humans panic; I never said victory comes for free/without a cost; all battles have their tolls; but in general humans would win rather easily; several countries've emergency plans and procedures; usa even has emergrncy plans for literal zombie appocalypse! :D I am very sure a well aimed tank would kill a poor allosaurus; and infighting between dinosaurs themselves would gave humans another huge advantage; A automatic rocket launcher would terrify and destroy ao many dinosaurs; herbivore & omnivore dinosaurs'ld domesticated easily just like how humans domesticate even eagles by this point. Afterall I would bet on humans; dinosaurs were nowhere smart; or have the capabilities of a human :)

      You do realize Allosaurus is more jaws than head right? The jaw made up most of its head that's not accounting the precise location of the head. And doesn't matter...well trained or not a single would not kill an Allosaurus let alone a pack. Allosaurus are also stealthy predators, if one is ever stalking you wouldn't be able to see it, you'd have to keep a full on guard of your surroundings at all times, that's not including that it might have counter-shading color scheme, and the time you see it it'll already be too late especially since Allosaurus can run about 30mph, which most humans can not reach unless they were athletes. Allosaurus are also quite smart animals far exceeding the T.Rex and Alligator in intelligence, so it would be comparable to the Tiger or Eagle.

      Spinosaurus, Troodon, and Tyrannosaurus rex are more intelligent than allosaurus.

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    • +Dinoanime1234  Indeed

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    • But I have to agree it will be like the Grat Emu War. But on a much higher scale. Just saying this but, it would take about 100-200 dinosaurs to destroy a small city.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote:

      Ibarber wrote:


      The dragnor wrote:

      Hypnobrai wrote:


      The dragnor wrote:
      Ibarber wrote:
      The dragnor wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote: No chemical weapons or biological weapons. Just tanks and guns.

      Theropods would most likely loose on the human inhabited areas but the extremely forested areas like amazon; congo; would become uninhabited by human as Theropods would claim those areas; smaller dinosaurs would become almost pest-like; similiar to the huge pigeon populations of urban cities today; speculatively
      Dude are you literally serious? There are many theropods that were adapted to open areas, the city or town to a Raptor or a T.Rex respectively will be like a field day to them, even if they can't enter a locked house these predators weren't dumb, they special hunting traits are have prepared against certain obstacles such as buildings, they could just bust right through. These aren't the tail-dragging ferocious we saw in stop-motion documentaries and B-Movie films. These animals would be highly adapted to all these said areas.

      The only true place a human would be safe is in a cave, underground, the trees, or a Fortress, and 3 out of those 4 can only be safe for so long. Meat-Eating theropods scowered across all the biomes in their regions, and even if any did wonder into a city, I'm sure a pack of Allosaurus would create a mass wave of destruction and deaths by the 100s, and that's inadvertently.

      Severely disagreed. United States Military level weapons're allowed. The only things that aren't allowed are nukes/bio & chemical weapons. Just look at the current military level of the planet. Suicidal theropods would be killed off so quickly and so massively; you would be shocked. Ammo; New tech Guns; rockets; launchers; everything is allowed; there would be a blood/gore house caused by humans. Just look at the efficiency of any weapon; theropods couldn't stand a chance; except the runners; rockets and large ammunition weapons would easily tore a theropod into sushi pieces and the flamethrowers burn the smaller ones; a raptor stands zero chance against an AK-47; and how about the weaponized jets; helicopters; orbital weapons...etc.

      Weapons are the Common Sense. 

      Yeah but it's hard to use those weapons on a city street when you have tons of people who need help. Any explosion and more people could be killed than dinosaurs. Also, we don't even know how a human would react to a pack of Allosaurus charging at them. All Dinoanime said was tanks and guns, that wouldn't help much against a charging herd of Bruhathkayosaurus. And besides, the humans would struggle to fight off dromaeosaurs and medium carnivores and since there are so many I doubt they could be fast enough to stop them like they would in a movie. And there would be more "Clever girl" moments than you can count. Raptors are smart.
      There're several extremely well trained soldiers; snipers and human assasins who would easily kill an allosaur with a single bullet to the head; of course several humans panic; I never said victory comes for free/without a cost; all battles have their tolls; but in general humans would win rather easily; several countries've emergency plans and procedures; usa even has emergrncy plans for literal zombie appocalypse! :D

      I am very sure a well aimed tank would kill a poor allosaurus; and infighting between dinosaurs themselves would gave humans another huge advantage; A automatic rocket launcher would terrify and destroy ao many dinosaurs; herbivore & omnivore dinosaurs'ld domesticated easily just like how humans domesticate even eagles by this point. Afterall I would bet on humans; dinosaurs were nowhere smart; or have the capabilities of a human :)

      You do realize Allosaurus is more jaws than head right? The jaw made up most of its head that's not accounting the precise location of the head. And doesn't matter...well trained or not a single would not kill an Allosaurus let alone a pack. Allosaurus are also stealthy predators, if one is ever stalking you wouldn't be able to see it, you'd have to keep a full on guard of your surroundings at all times, that's not including that it might have counter-shading color scheme, and the time you see it it'll already be too late especially since Allosaurus can run about 30mph, which most humans can not reach unless they were athletes. Allosaurus are also quite smart animals far exceeding the T.Rex and Alligator in intelligence, so it would be comparable to the Tiger or Eagle.
      Spinosaurus, Troodon, and Tyrannosaurus rex are more intelligent than allosaurus.

      One Spinosaurus' intelligence would've been the equivalent of Crocodile or a Shoebill Stork, so no rule out. Second if you're insinuating this as fact from the most recent information in comparing Tyrannosaurus' intelligence with of a Chimpanzee, it has some holes and is still new, hunting strategy was pretty similar, but that's it. Besides have you see the morphology T.Rex's braincase?

      Allosaurus braincase morphology and behavior was similar to a Tiger and a Raven, those, besides pachyderms, most aquatic mammals and primates are the smartest animal to live today. In fact we already Jurassic period the evolutionary process in both intelligence and behaviorial diversity had already sky rocketed not too little after the Triassic, I mean after all feathered dinosaurs were already a thing by the early Jurassic. So it's not like Allosaurus couldn't be as SMARTER as a T.Rex. As research provides in social behavior and morphology, T.Rex settled for brute strength and size more, Allosaurus (at times a lone hunter) relied on agility, intelligence, brute strength, extraordinary feats and used the obstacles it was surrounded to its advantage maneuver. 

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    • Ibarber wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote:

      Ibarber wrote:


      The dragnor wrote:

      Hypnobrai wrote:


      The dragnor wrote:
      Ibarber wrote:
      The dragnor wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote: No chemical weapons or biological weapons. Just tanks and guns.

      Theropods would most likely loose on the human inhabited areas but the extremely forested areas like amazon; congo; would become uninhabited by human as Theropods would claim those areas; smaller dinosaurs would become almost pest-like; similiar to the huge pigeon populations of urban cities today; speculatively
      Dude are you literally serious? There are many theropods that were adapted to open areas, the city or town to a Raptor or a T.Rex respectively will be like a field day to them, even if they can't enter a locked house these predators weren't dumb, they special hunting traits are have prepared against certain obstacles such as buildings, they could just bust right through. These aren't the tail-dragging ferocious we saw in stop-motion documentaries and B-Movie films. These animals would be highly adapted to all these said areas.

      The only true place a human would be safe is in a cave, underground, the trees, or a Fortress, and 3 out of those 4 can only be safe for so long. Meat-Eating theropods scowered across all the biomes in their regions, and even if any did wonder into a city, I'm sure a pack of Allosaurus would create a mass wave of destruction and deaths by the 100s, and that's inadvertently.

      Severely disagreed. United States Military level weapons're allowed. The only things that aren't allowed are nukes/bio & chemical weapons. Just look at the current military level of the planet. Suicidal theropods would be killed off so quickly and so massively; you would be shocked. Ammo; New tech Guns; rockets; launchers; everything is allowed; there would be a blood/gore house caused by humans. Just look at the efficiency of any weapon; theropods couldn't stand a chance; except the runners; rockets and large ammunition weapons would easily tore a theropod into sushi pieces and the flamethrowers burn the smaller ones; a raptor stands zero chance against an AK-47; and how about the weaponized jets; helicopters; orbital weapons...etc.

      Weapons are the Common Sense. 

      Yeah but it's hard to use those weapons on a city street when you have tons of people who need help. Any explosion and more people could be killed than dinosaurs. Also, we don't even know how a human would react to a pack of Allosaurus charging at them. All Dinoanime said was tanks and guns, that wouldn't help much against a charging herd of Bruhathkayosaurus. And besides, the humans would struggle to fight off dromaeosaurs and medium carnivores and since there are so many I doubt they could be fast enough to stop them like they would in a movie. And there would be more "Clever girl" moments than you can count. Raptors are smart.
      There're several extremely well trained soldiers; snipers and human assasins who would easily kill an allosaur with a single bullet to the head; of course several humans panic; I never said victory comes for free/without a cost; all battles have their tolls; but in general humans would win rather easily; several countries've emergency plans and procedures; usa even has emergrncy plans for literal zombie appocalypse! :D

      I am very sure a well aimed tank would kill a poor allosaurus; and infighting between dinosaurs themselves would gave humans another huge advantage; A automatic rocket launcher would terrify and destroy ao many dinosaurs; herbivore & omnivore dinosaurs'ld domesticated easily just like how humans domesticate even eagles by this point. Afterall I would bet on humans; dinosaurs were nowhere smart; or have the capabilities of a human :)

      You do realize Allosaurus is more jaws than head right? The jaw made up most of its head that's not accounting the precise location of the head. And doesn't matter...well trained or not a single would not kill an Allosaurus let alone a pack. Allosaurus are also stealthy predators, if one is ever stalking you wouldn't be able to see it, you'd have to keep a full on guard of your surroundings at all times, that's not including that it might have counter-shading color scheme, and the time you see it it'll already be too late especially since Allosaurus can run about 30mph, which most humans can not reach unless they were athletes. Allosaurus are also quite smart animals far exceeding the T.Rex and Alligator in intelligence, so it would be comparable to the Tiger or Eagle.
      Spinosaurus, Troodon, and Tyrannosaurus rex are more intelligent than allosaurus.

      One Spinosaurus' intelligence would've been the equivalent of Crocodile or a Shoebill Stork, so no rule out. Second if you're insinuating this as fact from the most recent information in comparing Tyrannosaurus' intelligence with of a Chimpanzee, it has some holes and is still new, hunting strategy was pretty similar, but that's it. Besides have you see the morphology T.Rex's braincase?

      Allosaurus braincase morphology and behavior was similar to a Tiger and a Raven, those, besides pachyderms, most aquatic mammals and primates are the smartest animal to live today. In fact we already Jurassic period the evolutionary process in both intelligence and behaviorial diversity had already sky rocketed not too little after the Triassic, I mean after all feathered dinosaurs were already a thing by the early Jurassic. So it's not like Allosaurus couldn't be as SMARTER as a T.Rex. As research provides in social behavior and morphology, T.Rex settled for brute strength and size more, Allosaurus (at times a lone hunter) relied on agility, intelligence, brute strength, extraordinary feats and used the obstacles it was surrounded to its advantage maneuver. 

      Tyrannosaurus doesn't have the intelligence nowhere near a chimpanzee; there's no way to validate that; the brain size; complexity; morphology are entirely different; those New are very inaccurate

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    • IMG 3100

      This is the Tyrannosaurus rex brain size.

      Tyrannosaurus rex brain was a size of a chimpanzee but wasn't as smart. Also Ibarber there's an article about Tyrannosaurus rex intelligence. But Tyrannosaurus rex was smart for a dinosaur. But Troodon is the smartest dinosaur known by science... for now...

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote:
      IMG 3100

      This is the Tyrannosaurus rex brain size.

      Tyrannosaurus rex brain was a size of a chimpanzee but wasn't as smart. Also Ibarber there's an article about Tyrannosaurus rex intelligence. But Tyrannosaurus rex was smart for a dinosaur. But Troodon is the smartest dinosaur known by science... for now...

      Images chimp brain/human brain
      meanwhile I agree on all parts; and also the part that Spinosaurus 've had intelligence of more akin/likely to crocodiles. Tyrannosaurus overall brain captivity/mass is smaller and much less complex than a chimpanzee; by the looks of lobes; most of the brain reserved for smell & senses. Troodon genera is indeed the most intelligent; for now; I heard a species of troodon-tid Sinornithoides is in the most intelligent; even more than Troodon
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    • Also. Dinosaurs breed faster than humans. We reach maturity by the age of 20. While theropods like Allosaurus, reach maturity by the age of 10-15. But most large theropods reach maturity by the age of 18. Don't forget about the sauropods. They can lay hundreds of eggs.

      That's one advantage they have. But let's see the two kinds of the dinosaurs.

      First on the list, Genetically modified dinosaurs.

      IMG 3124

      Ingen dinosaurs

      So, if there's a 1,000 we can handle them. But if there's 7.5 billion of them. We wouldn't stand a chance because they breed very quickly. They reach maturity by the age of 3.

      Next on the list, Intelligent Dinosaurs.

      IMG 3123

      Dinosaurs from "Dinosaurs VS Aliens".

      These intelligent dinosaurs from the graphic novel will destroy us. The dinosaurs in the graphic novel are use to fighting in wars. Other than real life dinosaurs, we don't stand a chance.

      The real life dinosaurs, I'll say 50/50.

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    • +DinoAnime1234 Indeed; but movie & book INGEN dinosaurs've massive differences. And the egg-reproduction of dinosaurs make them extremely vulnerable. INGEN dinosaurs would be managable if the nukes & bio-chemical weapons're used. Indeed but those dinosaurs're extremely evolved; if the humans would've engineered/evolved too; than the game would be fair

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    • The dragnor wrote:

      Ibarber wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote:

      Ibarber wrote:


      The dragnor wrote:

      Hypnobrai wrote:



      The dragnor wrote:
      Ibarber wrote:
      The dragnor wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote: No chemical weapons or biological weapons. Just tanks and guns.

      Theropods would most likely loose on the human inhabited areas but the extremely forested areas like amazon; congo; would become uninhabited by human as Theropods would claim those areas; smaller dinosaurs would become almost pest-like; similiar to the huge pigeon populations of urban cities today; speculatively
      Dude are you literally serious? There are many theropods that were adapted to open areas, the city or town to a Raptor or a T.Rex respectively will be like a field day to them, even if they can't enter a locked house these predators weren't dumb, they special hunting traits are have prepared against certain obstacles such as buildings, they could just bust right through. These aren't the tail-dragging ferocious we saw in stop-motion documentaries and B-Movie films. These animals would be highly adapted to all these said areas.

      The only true place a human would be safe is in a cave, underground, the trees, or a Fortress, and 3 out of those 4 can only be safe for so long. Meat-Eating theropods scowered across all the biomes in their regions, and even if any did wonder into a city, I'm sure a pack of Allosaurus would create a mass wave of destruction and deaths by the 100s, and that's inadvertently.

      Severely disagreed. United States Military level weapons're allowed. The only things that aren't allowed are nukes/bio & chemical weapons. Just look at the current military level of the planet. Suicidal theropods would be killed off so quickly and so massively; you would be shocked. Ammo; New tech Guns; rockets; launchers; everything is allowed; there would be a blood/gore house caused by humans. Just look at the efficiency of any weapon; theropods couldn't stand a chance; except the runners; rockets and large ammunition weapons would easily tore a theropod into sushi pieces and the flamethrowers burn the smaller ones; a raptor stands zero chance against an AK-47; and how about the weaponized jets; helicopters; orbital weapons...etc.

      Weapons are the Common Sense. 

      Yeah but it's hard to use those weapons on a city street when you have tons of people who need help. Any explosion and more people could be killed than dinosaurs. Also, we don't even know how a human would react to a pack of Allosaurus charging at them. All Dinoanime said was tanks and guns, that wouldn't help much against a charging herd of Bruhathkayosaurus. And besides, the humans would struggle to fight off dromaeosaurs and medium carnivores and since there are so many I doubt they could be fast enough to stop them like they would in a movie. And there would be more "Clever girl" moments than you can count. Raptors are smart.
      There're several extremely well trained soldiers; snipers and human assasins who would easily kill an allosaur with a single bullet to the head; of course several humans panic; I never said victory comes for free/without a cost; all battles have their tolls; but in general humans would win rather easily; several countries've emergency plans and procedures; usa even has emergrncy plans for literal zombie appocalypse! :D

      I am very sure a well aimed tank would kill a poor allosaurus; and infighting between dinosaurs themselves would gave humans another huge advantage; A automatic rocket launcher would terrify and destroy ao many dinosaurs; herbivore & omnivore dinosaurs'ld domesticated easily just like how humans domesticate even eagles by this point. Afterall I would bet on humans; dinosaurs were nowhere smart; or have the capabilities of a human :)

      You do realize Allosaurus is more jaws than head right? The jaw made up most of its head that's not accounting the precise location of the head. And doesn't matter...well trained or not a single would not kill an Allosaurus let alone a pack. Allosaurus are also stealthy predators, if one is ever stalking you wouldn't be able to see it, you'd have to keep a full on guard of your surroundings at all times, that's not including that it might have counter-shading color scheme, and the time you see it it'll already be too late especially since Allosaurus can run about 30mph, which most humans can not reach unless they were athletes. Allosaurus are also quite smart animals far exceeding the T.Rex and Alligator in intelligence, so it would be comparable to the Tiger or Eagle.
      Spinosaurus, Troodon, and Tyrannosaurus rex are more intelligent than allosaurus.
      One Spinosaurus' intelligence would've been the equivalent of Crocodile or a Shoebill Stork, so no rule out. Second if you're insinuating this as fact from the most recent information in comparing Tyrannosaurus' intelligence with of a Chimpanzee, it has some holes and is still new, hunting strategy was pretty similar, but that's it. Besides have you see the morphology T.Rex's braincase?

      Allosaurus braincase morphology and behavior was similar to a Tiger and a Raven, those, besides pachyderms, most aquatic mammals and primates are the smartest animal to live today. In fact we already Jurassic period the evolutionary process in both intelligence and behaviorial diversity had already sky rocketed not too little after the Triassic, I mean after all feathered dinosaurs were already a thing by the early Jurassic. So it's not like Allosaurus couldn't be as SMARTER as a T.Rex. As research provides in social behavior and morphology, T.Rex settled for brute strength and size more, Allosaurus (at times a lone hunter) relied on agility, intelligence, brute strength, extraordinary feats and used the obstacles it was surrounded to its advantage maneuver. 

      Tyrannosaurus doesn't have the intelligence nowhere near a chimpanzee; there's no way to validate that; the brain size; complexity; morphology are entirely different; those New are very inaccurate

      I concur. You see despite the behavioral pattern of the T.Rex being drawn from the Alligator and with earlier relative showing the social grouping seen Lions, the hunting strategy of the theropod is unlike any other as the fossil records validate. We all know in a Tyrannosaur group the other members in the family lure the prey into a trap of the lying in wait older individual, this hunting mechanism is shown in Chimps, in terms of smarts for a dinosaur T.Rex was indeed, but it only in its unique hunting strategy.  How did Chimps learn this technique? Well one suggestion seems to make logical sense. See our subconscious minds record every piece of our live history to even something our ancestors inherited or to what we heard in our sleep, though we may not react immediately (some more so than) the result is the same.

      The best guess for how Chimps were able to learn to hunt in this fashion was through our ancient ancestors, the lastest of the Mesozoic epoch is the supposed, Purgatoris. unio. This squirrel-like primate were able to observe how a group of T.Rex hunted in their last moments. This phenomenon was recorded into their subconscious and the remaining survivors passed on this maneuver. A few million years this data had lied dormant, until eventually the Pliocene ,when Chimpanzee and earliest forms of man began to appear. The data from our Purgatoris ancestor was received in both these us and our great ape cousins. And though most civilized human being and rejected this hunting strategy, man still harbors this trait today, as well as a few other animals. That is theory based on the facts we have today.

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      This is the Tyrannosaurus rex brain size.

      Tyrannosaurus rex brain was a size of a chimpanzee but wasn't as smart. Also Ibarber there's an article about Tyrannosaurus rex intelligence. But Tyrannosaurus rex was smart for a dinosaur. But Troodon is the smartest dinosaur known by science... for now...

      Just because both the masses are the same doesn't define the intelligence of the animal. I mean you take a look at a human being next to a Dromaeosaur the Dromaeosaur will obviously outsmart the person it's after due to remembering its survival instincts and ability to mock the animal it hears.

      That is because Troodontids were the ONLY smartest group of Non-avian dinosaurs known science. Allosaurus and Dromaeosaurs are ranked in second place by this group of theropods. The smartest avain dinosaurs known today are the Crows, Ravens, Macaws, Magpies, Lyrebirds, and so many other species. 

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      Also. Dinosaurs breed faster than humans. We reach maturity by the age of 20. While theropods like Allosaurus, reach maturity by the age of 10-15. But most large theropods reach maturity by the age of 18. Don't forget about the sauropods. They can lay hundreds of eggs.

      That's one advantage they have. But let's see the two kinds of the dinosaurs.

      First on the list, Genetically modified dinosaurs.

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      Ingen dinosaurs

      So, if there's a 1,000 we can handle them. But if there's 7.5 billion of them. We wouldn't stand a chance because they breed very quickly. They reach maturity by the age of 3.

      Next on the list, Intelligent Dinosaurs.

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      Dinosaurs from "Dinosaurs VS Aliens".

      These intelligent dinosaurs from the graphic novel will destroy us. The dinosaurs in the graphic novel are use to fighting in wars. Other than real life dinosaurs, we don't stand a chance.

      The real life dinosaurs, I'll say 50/50.

      What? InGen's dinosaurs are basically the same as real dinosaurs so it's 50/50. And if the the dinosaurs from Dinosaurs vs. Aliens are similar to the Indominus Rex, Indoraptor or are even smarter than the two. Then yes they'd win.

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      Dinoanime1234 wrote:
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      This is the Tyrannosaurus rex brain size.

      Tyrannosaurus rex brain was a size of a chimpanzee but wasn't as smart. Also Ibarber there's an article about Tyrannosaurus rex intelligence. But Tyrannosaurus rex was smart for a dinosaur. But Troodon is the smartest dinosaur known by science... for now...

      Just because both the masses are the same doesn't define the intelligence of the animal. I mean you take a look at a human being next to a Dromaeosaur the Dromaeosaur will obviously outsmart the person it's after due to remembering its survival instincts and ability to mock the animal it hears.

      That is because Troodontids were the ONLY smartest group of Non-avian dinosaurs known science. Allosaurus and Dromaeosaurs are ranked in second place by this group of theropods. The smartest avain dinosaurs known today are the Crows, Ravens, Macaws, Magpies, Lyrebirds, and so many other species. 

      Except that The Brain mass, cordinal/nerve details and overall complexity does matter; these factors're critical when considering a species intelligence; especially which lobes are more advanced and which lobes are not. These are how an animal's brain capacity, ability & fullest intelligence is determined; and yes; overall brain complexity does indicates the accurate intelligence. One to one fight huh; By outsmart in which way ? Sheer burtality & intincts definetly doesn't indicate any intelligence; heck; there're tribes who still hunt lions; wolf packs; bears and tigers today; which're clearly more dangerous/unpredictible when compared to a dromesaur.

      Yes, its the second paragraph is true. Which where does that lead to ? Meanwhile Troodon/Troodontids ; Raptor/Dramesauridae & likely allosaurs were intelligent; they were nowhere near understanding any complex human strategy and were definetly not bulletproof.

      However; INGEN's [[[dinosaurs]]] are nowhere near any dinosaur. They're genetically modified; engineered, and sometimes enhanced Dinosaur-Amphibian and sometimes reptile HYBRIDS. They pointed that all out even in their own movies; Jurassic Park - Juraasic Park III's beggining - Jurassic World. Even books quoted these fact. They're hybrids; Chimera; abomimations. They would have capacity to do more damage but in the end; they can all be killed. DvA case is complex. But I don't see that they win. Humanity would scorch/Tore apart the entire planet rather than lose it.

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      Dinoanime1234 wrote: No chemical weapons or biological weapons. Just tanks and guns.

      Theropods would most likely loose on the human inhabited areas but the extremely forested areas like amazon; congo; would become uninhabited by human as Theropods would claim those areas; smaller dinosaurs would become almost pest-like; similiar to the huge pigeon populations of urban cities today; speculatively
      Dude are you literally serious? There are many theropods that were adapted to open areas, the city or town to a Raptor or a T.Rex respectively will be like a field day to them, even if they can't enter a locked house these predators weren't dumb, they special hunting traits are have prepared against certain obstacles such as buildings, they could just bust right through. These aren't the tail-dragging ferocious we saw in stop-motion documentaries and B-Movie films. These animals would be highly adapted to all these said areas.

      The only true place a human would be safe is in a cave, underground, the trees, or a Fortress, and 3 out of those 4 can only be safe for so long. Meat-Eating theropods scowered across all the biomes in their regions, and even if any did wonder into a city, I'm sure a pack of Allosaurus would create a mass wave of destruction and deaths by the 100s, and that's inadvertently.

      Severely disagreed. United States Military level weapons're allowed. The only things that aren't allowed are nukes/bio & chemical weapons. Just look at the current military level of the planet. Suicidal theropods would be killed off so quickly and so massively; you would be shocked. Ammo; New tech Guns; rockets; launchers; everything is allowed; there would be a blood/gore house caused by humans. Just look at the efficiency of any weapon; theropods couldn't stand a chance; except the runners; rockets and large ammunition weapons would easily tore a theropod into sushi pieces and the flamethrowers burn the smaller ones; a raptor stands zero chance against an AK-47; and how about the weaponized jets; helicopters; orbital weapons...etc.

      Weapons are the Common Sense. 

      Yeah but it's hard to use those weapons on a city street when you have tons of people who need help. Any explosion and more people could be killed than dinosaurs. Also, we don't even know how a human would react to a pack of Allosaurus charging at them. All Dinoanime said was tanks and guns, that wouldn't help much against a charging herd of Bruhathkayosaurus. And besides, the humans would struggle to fight off dromaeosaurs and medium carnivores and since there are so many I doubt they could be fast enough to stop them like they would in a movie. And there would be more "Clever girl" moments than you can count. Raptors are smart.
      There're several extremely well trained soldiers; snipers and human assasins who would easily kill an allosaur with a single bullet to the head; of course several humans panic; I never said victory comes for free/without a cost; all battles have their tolls; but in general humans would win rather easily; several countries've emergency plans and procedures; usa even has emergrncy plans for literal zombie appocalypse! :D

      I am very sure a well aimed tank would kill a poor allosaurus; and infighting between dinosaurs themselves would gave humans another huge advantage; A automatic rocket launcher would terrify and destroy ao many dinosaurs; herbivore & omnivore dinosaurs'ld domesticated easily just like how humans domesticate even eagles by this point. Afterall I would bet on humans; dinosaurs were nowhere smart; or have the capabilities of a human :)

      You do realize Allosaurus is more jaws than head right? The jaw made up most of its head that's not accounting the precise location of the head. And doesn't matter...well trained or not a single would not kill an Allosaurus let alone a pack. Allosaurus are also stealthy predators, if one is ever stalking you wouldn't be able to see it, you'd have to keep a full on guard of your surroundings at all times, that's not including that it might have counter-shading color scheme, and the time you see it it'll already be too late especially since Allosaurus can run about 30mph, which most humans can not reach unless they were athletes. Allosaurus are also quite smart animals far exceeding the T.Rex and Alligator in intelligence, so it would be comparable to the Tiger or Eagle.
      Spinosaurus, Troodon, and Tyrannosaurus rex are more intelligent than allosaurus.
      One Spinosaurus' intelligence would've been the equivalent of Crocodile or a Shoebill Stork, so no rule out. Second if you're insinuating this as fact from the most recent information in comparing Tyrannosaurus' intelligence with of a Chimpanzee, it has some holes and is still new, hunting strategy was pretty similar, but that's it. Besides have you see the morphology T.Rex's braincase?

      Allosaurus braincase morphology and behavior was similar to a Tiger and a Raven, those, besides pachyderms, most aquatic mammals and primates are the smartest animal to live today. In fact we already Jurassic period the evolutionary process in both intelligence and behaviorial diversity had already sky rocketed not too little after the Triassic, I mean after all feathered dinosaurs were already a thing by the early Jurassic. So it's not like Allosaurus couldn't be as SMARTER as a T.Rex. As research provides in social behavior and morphology, T.Rex settled for brute strength and size more, Allosaurus (at times a lone hunter) relied on agility, intelligence, brute strength, extraordinary feats and used the obstacles it was surrounded to its advantage maneuver. 

      Tyrannosaurus doesn't have the intelligence nowhere near a chimpanzee; there's no way to validate that; the brain size; complexity; morphology are entirely different; those New are very inaccurate

      I concur. You see despite the behavioral pattern of the T.Rex being drawn from the Alligator and with earlier relative showing the social grouping seen Lions, the hunting strategy of the theropod is unlike any other as the fossil records validate. We all know in a Tyrannosaur group the other members in the family lure the prey into a trap of the lying in wait older individual, this hunting mechanism is shown in Chimps, in terms of smarts for a dinosaur T.Rex was indeed, but it only in its unique hunting strategy.  How did Chimps learn this technique? Well one suggestion seems to make logical sense. See our subconscious minds record every piece of our live history to even something our ancestors inherited or to what we heard in our sleep, though we may not react immediately (some more so than) the result is the same.

      The best guess for how Chimps were able to learn to hunt in this fashion was through our ancient ancestors, the lastest of the Mesozoic epoch is the supposed, Purgatoris. unio. This squirrel-like primate were able to observe how a group of T.Rex hunted in their last moments. This phenomenon was recorded into their subconscious and the remaining survivors passed on this maneuver. A few million years this data had lied dormant, until eventually the Pliocene ,when Chimpanzee and earliest forms of man began to appear. The data from our Purgatoris ancestor was received in both these us and our great ape cousins. And though most civilized human being and rejected this hunting strategy, man still harbors this trait today, as well as a few other animals. That is theory based on the facts we have today.

      Meanwhile possible; the overall brain size; lobe and nerve complexity of any theropod species points out nowhere near a simian; pack behaviore isn't something to be note'd. Even crocidile species show unexpected amounts of sociality amongst their species

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      Dinoanime1234 wrote:
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      This is the Tyrannosaurus rex brain size.

      Tyrannosaurus rex brain was a size of a chimpanzee but wasn't as smart. Also Ibarber there's an article about Tyrannosaurus rex intelligence. But Tyrannosaurus rex was smart for a dinosaur. But Troodon is the smartest dinosaur known by science... for now...
      Just because both the masses are the same doesn't define the intelligence of the animal. I mean you take a look at a human being next to a Dromaeosaur the Dromaeosaur will obviously outsmart the person it's after due to remembering its survival instincts and ability to mock the animal it hears.

      That is because Troodontids were the ONLY smartest group of Non-avian dinosaurs known science. Allosaurus and Dromaeosaurs are ranked in second place by this group of theropods. The smartest avain dinosaurs known today are the Crows, Ravens, Macaws, Magpies, Lyrebirds, and so many other species. 

      Except that The Brain mass, cordinal/nerve details and overall complexity does matter; these factors're critical when considering a species intelligence; especially which lobes are more advanced and which lobes are not. These are how an animal's brain capacity, ability & fullest intelligence is determined; and yes; overall brain complexity does indicates the accurate intelligence. One to one fight huh; By outsmart in which way ? Sheer burtality & intincts definetly doesn't indicate any intelligence; heck; there're tribes who still hunt lions; wolf packs; bears and tigers today; which're clearly more dangerous/unpredictible when compared to a dromesaur.

      Yes, its the second paragraph is true. Which where does that lead to ? Meanwhile Troodon/Troodontids ; Raptor/Dramesauridae & likely allosaurs were intelligent; they were nowhere near understanding any complex human strategy and were definetly not bulletproof.

      However; INGEN's [[[dinosaurs]]] are nowhere near any dinosaur. They're genetically modified; engineered, and sometimes enhanced Dinosaur-Amphibian and sometimes reptile HYBRIDS. They pointed that all out even in their own movies; Jurassic Park - Juraasic Park III's beggining - Jurassic World. Even books quoted these fact. They're hybrids; Chimera; abomimations. They would have capacity to do more damage but in the end; they can all be killed. DvA case is complex. But I don't see that they win. Humanity would scorch/Tore apart the entire planet rather than lose it.

      You kind of missed the point. Most of these animals we hunt we hunt from a safe distance, villagers also do no take the time to hunt predators as it would risk the numbers in that said hunting party or village, and would be alive hunting something easier, this is no stranger out in the wilderness, a lot like how you want the cheapist price at a grocery store or the mall, you want the same values when out hunting, unless the sources are low is only when hunters will take the high risk. Your doesn't always have to smart to tell you what is the safest or most dangerous thing to do. Anybody can hunt, but the strategy behind it is what tests the limits behind an animal's intelligence and social skills, etc. In contradiction to your reply I'd have to concur, sometimes evolving or enhancing your morphological structure is usually what affects one's intelligence. If bodybuilder focused on entirely increasing his muscle mass without equally feeding his brain with some activity like reading, the builder is resorted to rely on their brutality and strength, but at a cost shrinks the brain in the process.

      With animals it's a different process, for Sauropods in example size is always everything to their survival, braincases of the Utah sauropod, Moabosaurus indicate that animal had a braincase no bigger than Chinese eggroll, and by evolving a body built mainly for so little activities Sauropods do not require large brains. Most theropods had more complex and active brains like that to most predatory animals living today. 



      But like with the bodybuilder aforementioned earlier, theropods have a similar brain development, for example: Tyrannosaurs all started small, possibly having the same intelligence equivalent as their Dromaeosaur cousins or to today's animals. While this was an advantage, Tyrannosaurs were constantly shadowed by bigger and tougher predators or prey, therefore the evolved for more brute strength and size, though they did carry intelligence it was probably nothing like their earlier ancestors'. Allosaurus carries a middle ground between strength and agility, thus far the skull was smaller, and with most of their prey either quicker, bigger or tougher and more social these theropods would the right of traits and smarts to survive, that is what lead to their sucession. As the braincase shows the Allosaurus had similarlities with that of a Crow's braincase, therefore indicating Allosaurus were indeed pretty smart creatures for their size, however since the more developed Troodonts were smaller and highly evolved the similar braincase had a more complex structure of nerves similar to a Crow or Raven, traiting a similar behavior with Allosaurus in 2nd place. Combined with their acute, and extraordinary features could much or less anticipate what us humans could do if we encountered them. And based on evidence it is possible these dinosaurs were able to manipulate their prey through the terrain, hunting strategy or by mimicry of another animal, of course birds and some reptiles can emit similar sounds to their mammalian counterparts due to their wide vocal range, such as Cassowaries, Titmouses, Vultures, Lyrebirds, Frogs, Snakes, and Macaws. If these animals can outwit humans with evasive manuevers and mimicry, then there is assurance that even non-avian theropods could do much the same.

      Regardless of these minor changes, a lot of Jurassic Park's dinosaurs retain their natural feats, intelligence and instincts, which enough to overpower and manipulate many of the human characters. The Dilophosaurus in the 1st film relied on its size, curiosity, and coos, this fooled Nedry into thinking the juvenile was harmless on behalf of his ignorance studying these animals. Following up with the Gallimimus herd, raptor battle, and interactions with human characters respectively, the Tyrannosaurus still relied on ambushing its prey this highly noted when it successfully pursued and killed both the Gallimimus and Velociraptor that was about to kill Grant and company. InGen's Tyrannosaurs are also aware of their handicap of visual movement so in order to go around this when encountering human characters, they roar or use any objects to force the characters to reveal themselves, for example nudging any vehicles or using a special illuminescence to help enhance its sight, like a light. This is also same with the Velociraptors all though they have some advantages and disadvantages, but sacrifice more brutality, the animals still posess some communicative and hunting skills and manage to work around these technicalities as such as their realistic counterpart would to hunt down their prey. You can also tell the Velociraptor's intelligence in curiosity is similar to any animal as it looked at the ladle and temporarily played with it. Despite our advantages in technology and weaponry choices dinosaurs have their set of advantages which tower over the feats most primates (like us humans) have in the end we'd just might lose especially when considerin that humans rarely produce up to 9 children while dinosaurs can reproduce and lay over a dozen eggs within each year, of course that doesn't include the incubation speed as well, for a Hadrosaur it only takes 5 months to for their eggs to hatch, but something like a theropod may take only 1 week to hatch. By the course of just under a year we'd be over runned by dinosaurs in no time, that is why we have some many avian ones today.

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    • Actually. Tyrannosaurus rex was more intelligent than allosaurus. For it to hunt larger and tougher prey (yes Tyrannosaurus rex hunted bigger prey), they needed to be more intelligent.

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    • But I have to agree with the DVA dinosaurs. They are more intelligent than Indominus and Indoraptor. So they will destroy us for sure.

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    • +Ibarber Meanwhile True on several points; there're several cultures that provokes a culture that actively hunting dangerous game. Like the swahili, swazi, zulu, nagaland; maasai..etc. all of these several cultures absurdly provokes their men/younger men to seek out and kill/hunt dangerous game. Indeed; on the point that enhancing one side over other is destuctive. There're multiple reasons that overtly aggressive cultures either are unadvanced/tribal level and if successfull live shorter life-spans.

      Meanwhile I do agree that several avian species do show intelligence, dinosaurs are ground that never be assured unless a total completion. The theropod species are an unknown ground. Meanwhile theropods might've show complex behaviore, I am certain that a simian level intelligence is impossible

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote: Actually. Tyrannosaurus rex was more intelligent than allosaurus. For it to hunt larger and tougher prey (yes Tyrannosaurus rex hunted bigger prey), they needed to be more intelligent.

      I have to disagree on the theropod part. The allosaurus and allosaurid species're likely hunted bigger prey. Sauropods/sub adult and-or lone adults; stegosaurus; and several large sized species. The Tyrannosaurus did hunted large prey but those prey're comparably less dangerous than a full grown bull sauropod

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote: But I have to agree with the DVA dinosaurs. They are more intelligent than Indominus and Indoraptor. So they will destroy us for sure.

      Tanks; Chemical weapons; rods of god/orbital weapons that have the sheer force of a nuke without the radiation; magnetic weapons...etc. There're multiple ways to kill a dangerous chimera monsters without nukes and biological weapons

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    • Tyrannosaurus rex hunted Alamosaurus. The largest dinosaur in North America.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote: Tyrannosaurus rex hunted Alamosaurus. The largest dinosaur in North America.

      Alasmosaurus lived far south than normal/usual tyrannosaurus range; so far; there's no evidence that tyrannosaurus ever hunted an alasmosaurus; no stomach content fossil nor bitemark on fossil; and tyrannosaurus have no reason to suicidally hunt a sauropod meanwhile having large iganodontids like edmontosaurus; large herbivores like Triceratops. Unlike Saurophaganax and Allosaurus; tyrannosaurus wasn't suited to hunt sauropods like more agile/swifter theropods like Allosauroids

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    • Actually we do. There's an article about that. Tyrannosaurus rex have been found in New Mexico, Texas, and Utah. Proof? There's a article about that. I can only give you the title.
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      Also we found bitemarks on Alamosaurus that belong to Tyrannosaurus rex. I'll get the picture later. I'm looking for it.

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    • More proof is right here.
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      That was the Tooth found on the Alamosaurus.

      From the article "Remember the Alamosaurus".

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote:
      Actually. Tyrannosaurus rex was more intelligent than allosaurus. For it to hunt larger and tougher prey (yes Tyrannosaurus rex hunted bigger prey), they needed to be more intelligent.

      No it wasn't. Just because Allosaurus lived 86 million years before the 1st Tyrannosaurus ever evolved, it doesn't that mean Tyrannosaurus were superior in intelligence than Allosaurus. That's like saying the Lion is smarter than the Tiger except the Tiger has much more complexed brain and bigger brain case. Read what I typed earlier to The Dragnor. It depends on the animal's capabiliies.

      Also here. https://bigcatrescue.org/who-is-smarter-lions-vs-tigers/

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      Actually we do. There's an article about that. Tyrannosaurus rex have been found in New Mexico, Texas, and Utah. Proof? There's a article about that. I can only give you the title.
      IMG 3125

      Also we found bitemarks on Alamosaurus that belong to Tyrannosaurus rex. I'll get the picture later. I'm looking for it.

      If that was the case there should be several named specimens; I am concerned about the validity of the article

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    • Ibarber wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote:
      Actually. Tyrannosaurus rex was more intelligent than allosaurus. For it to hunt larger and tougher prey (yes Tyrannosaurus rex hunted bigger prey), they needed to be more intelligent.

      No it wasn't. Just because Allosaurus lived 86 million years before the 1st Tyrannosaurus ever evolved, it doesn't that mean Tyrannosaurus were superior in intelligence than Allosaurus. That's like saying the Lion is smarter than the Tiger except the Tiger has much more complexed brain and bigger brain case. Read what I typed earlier to The Dragnor. It depends on the animal's capabiliies.

      Also here. https://bigcatrescue.org/who-is-smarter-lions-vs-tigers/

      Agreed

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      Dinoanime1234 wrote: Tyrannosaurus rex hunted Alamosaurus. The largest dinosaur in North America.

      Alasmosaurus lived far south than normal/usual tyrannosaurus range; so far; there's no evidence that tyrannosaurus ever hunted an alasmosaurus; no stomach content fossil nor bitemark on fossil; and tyrannosaurus have no reason to suicidally hunt a sauropod meanwhile having large iganodontids like edmontosaurus; large herbivores like Triceratops. Unlike Saurophaganax and Allosaurus; tyrannosaurus wasn't suited to hunt sauropods like more agile/swifter theropods like Allosauroids

      Well look at the prey choices in the evolutionary aspect. 86 million years before, Allosaurus and Saurophaganax hunted Sauropods that were about 10-16ft tall, that's medium-sized for sauropods so these low browser dinosaurs were at relative size to their counterparts and the young were "easy" to pick off from the herd. 86 million years later, the Titanosaurs had already dominated and grew to tremendous sizes, to which most theropods like T.Rex couldn't attack or kill successfully, this would've caused a lot of strain for Tyrannosaurus since they primarily were solitary hunters and Alamosaurus has a low fossil of being attack and killed by a T.Rex, it's clear as to why. Because you see Tyrannosaurus' diet didn't suit for Sauropods, most of the long-necked dinosaurs died out in North America by the middle of the Cretaceous so once the tyrannosaurs become the dominant predators by the mid-late Cretaceous the only prey items to choose from were Ceratopsians, Ankylosaurs, Ornithomimids, Pachycephalosaurs, and Hadrosaurs, usually Tyrannosaurs preyed upon hadrosaurs, ornithomimids, and sometimes ceratopsians as evidenced.  

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    • Ibarber wrote:

      The dragnor wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote: Tyrannosaurus rex hunted Alamosaurus. The largest dinosaur in North America.

      Alasmosaurus lived far south than normal/usual tyrannosaurus range; so far; there's no evidence that tyrannosaurus ever hunted an alasmosaurus; no stomach content fossil nor bitemark on fossil; and tyrannosaurus have no reason to suicidally hunt a sauropod meanwhile having large iganodontids like edmontosaurus; large herbivores like Triceratops. Unlike Saurophaganax and Allosaurus; tyrannosaurus wasn't suited to hunt sauropods like more agile/swifter theropods like Allosauroids

      Well look at the prey choices in the evolutionary aspect. 86 million years before, Allosaurus and Saurophaganax hunted Sauropods that were about 10-16ft tall, that's medium-sized for sauropods so these low browser dinosaurs were at relative size to their counterparts and the young were "easy" to pick off from the herd. 86 million years later, the Titanosaurs had already dominated and grew to tremendous sizes, to which most theropods like T.Rex couldn't attack or kill successfully, this would've caused a lot of strain for Tyrannosaurus since they primarily were solitary hunters and Alamosaurus has a low fossil of being attack and killed by a T.Rex, it's clear as to why. Because you see Tyrannosaurus' diet didn't suit for Sauropods, most of the long-necked dinosaurs died out in North America by the middle of the Cretaceous so once the tyrannosaurs become the dominant predators by the mid-late Cretaceous the only prey items to choose from were Ceratopsians, Ankylosaurs, Ornithomimids, Pachycephalosaurs, and Hadrosaurs, usually Tyrannosaurs preyed upon hadrosaurs, ornithomimids, and sometimes ceratopsians as evidenced.  

      Exactly

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    • The dragnor wrote:

      Ibarber wrote:

      The dragnor wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote: Tyrannosaurus rex hunted Alamosaurus. The largest dinosaur in North America.

      Alasmosaurus lived far south than normal/usual tyrannosaurus range; so far; there's no evidence that tyrannosaurus ever hunted an alasmosaurus; no stomach content fossil nor bitemark on fossil; and tyrannosaurus have no reason to suicidally hunt a sauropod meanwhile having large iganodontids like edmontosaurus; large herbivores like Triceratops. Unlike Saurophaganax and Allosaurus; tyrannosaurus wasn't suited to hunt sauropods like more agile/swifter theropods like Allosauroids
      Well look at the prey choices in the evolutionary aspect. 86 million years before, Allosaurus and Saurophaganax hunted Sauropods that were about 10-16ft tall, that's medium-sized for sauropods so these low browser dinosaurs were at relative size to their counterparts and the young were "easy" to pick off from the herd. 86 million years later, the Titanosaurs had already dominated and grew to tremendous sizes, to which most theropods like T.Rex couldn't attack or kill successfully, this would've caused a lot of strain for Tyrannosaurus since they primarily were solitary hunters and Alamosaurus has a low fossil of being attack and killed by a T.Rex, it's clear as to why. Because you see Tyrannosaurus' diet didn't suit for Sauropods, most of the long-necked dinosaurs died out in North America by the middle of the Cretaceous so once the tyrannosaurs become the dominant predators by the mid-late Cretaceous the only prey items to choose from were Ceratopsians, Ankylosaurs, Ornithomimids, Pachycephalosaurs, and Hadrosaurs, usually Tyrannosaurs preyed upon hadrosaurs, ornithomimids, and sometimes ceratopsians as evidenced.  

      Exactly

      They likely would've if Alamosaurus' ancestors or Kaatedocus migrated earlier to America, at by this time there were a dozen species of agilely-built tyrannosaurs. But that never happened and by then most these said Tyrannosaurs either went extinct, or evolved smaller or larger to fill in the missing niches in their ecosystem. 

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    • *Faceplam* 
      

      Tyrannosaurus rex actually hunted in packs. Also Tyrannosaurus rex would bite the ankles of the sauropod without using full force. Also they can hunt juvenile Alamosaurus.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote:
      *Faceplam*

      Tyrannosaurus rex actually hunted in packs. Also Tyrannosaurus rex would bite the ankles of the sauropod without using full force. Also they can hunt juvenile Alamosaurus.

      ' Double Facepalm

      Any dinosaur could hunt a juvenile sauropod even a small velociraptor. And the pack tyrannosaurus theory doesn't even proven. İn Any case a lone tyrannosaurus definetly cannot hunt a fully grown alasmosaurus

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    • Actually it was proven. Also I need you're source or I won't agree.
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      Most scientists agree Tyrannosaurus rex didn't hunt alone. Also Spinosaurus would've been a solitary animal.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote:
      Actually it was proven. Also I need you're source or I won't agree.
      IMG 3128

      Most scientists agree Tyrannosaurus rex didn't hunt alone. Also Spinosaurus would've been a solitary animal.

      Are people just dumb right now? I think they are.

      Because I never said Tyrannosaurus was a total solitary hunter, and that this "theory" was already proven before it was freaking conceived. We literally have Daspletosaurus, Yutyrannus, Nanotyrannus, and the echelons, Gorgosaurus and Albertosaurus to tell us that Tyrannosaur families hunted in a group. It so damn obvious. But overall that doesn't guarantee it is smarter than Allosaurus in other aspects.

      Also yeah Tyrannosaurus did attack juvenile Alamosaurus, but you don't see in the fossil records showing Alamosaurus specimens dying from Tyrannosaurus attack.

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    • But we do they fought each other from time to time. A pack of Tyrannosaurus rex wouldn't attack healthy adults but sick or old or injured. Also Tyrannosaurus rex is more intelligent than Allosaurus. It was confirmed in several articles. Proof?
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      Tyrannosaurus rex is number #4.

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      Allosaurus is number #7.

      Well here you go.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote:
      But we do they fought each other from time to time. A pack of Tyrannosaurus rex wouldn't attack healthy adults but sick or old or injured. Also Tyrannosaurus rex is more intelligent than Allosaurus. It was confirmed in several articles. Proof?
      IMG 3129

      Tyrannosaurus rex is number #4.

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      Allosaurus is number #7.

      Well here you go.


      Nothing is proven. There's no True evidence of tyrannosaurus species social behaviore; if there any; it would be great news; not Just some made-up article on a second rate site that most likely shares inaccurate news. 

      And you posted some pictures that validate nothing; they're pictures with no words or quotes. :|

      Meanwhile there's a possiblity of sociality in tyrannosaurus; its definetly nowhere near proven 

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    • It was. Years ago...

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote: It was. Years ago...

      Ummm... what ?

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    • The Tyrannosaurus rex pack hunting thing. They most likely hunted in family groups. But like every large theropods they mainly hunt alone until they get a mate. Yes, juveniles are forced to leave on their own. So they live lonely for the most of their life.

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    • Hypnobrai wrote:

      The dragnor wrote:
      Ibarber wrote:
      The dragnor wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote: No chemical weapons or biological weapons. Just tanks and guns.

      Theropods would most likely loose on the human inhabited areas but the extremely forested areas like amazon; congo; would become uninhabited by human as Theropods would claim those areas; smaller dinosaurs would become almost pest-like; similiar to the huge pigeon populations of urban cities today; speculatively
      Dude are you literally serious? There are many theropods that were adapted to open areas, the city or town to a Raptor or a T.Rex respectively will be like a field day to them, even if they can't enter a locked house these predators weren't dumb, they special hunting traits are have prepared against certain obstacles such as buildings, they could just bust right through. These aren't the tail-dragging ferocious we saw in stop-motion documentaries and B-Movie films. These animals would be highly adapted to all these said areas.

      The only true place a human would be safe is in a cave, underground, the trees, or a Fortress, and 3 out of those 4 can only be safe for so long. Meat-Eating theropods scowered across all the biomes in their regions, and even if any did wonder into a city, I'm sure a pack of Allosaurus would create a mass wave of destruction and deaths by the 100s, and that's inadvertently.

      Severely disagreed. United States Military level weapons're allowed. The only things that aren't allowed are nukes/bio & chemical weapons. Just look at the current military level of the planet. Suicidal theropods would be killed off so quickly and so massively; you would be shocked. Ammo; New tech Guns; rockets; launchers; everything is allowed; there would be a blood/gore house caused by humans. Just look at the efficiency of any weapon; theropods couldn't stand a chance; except the runners; rockets and large ammunition weapons would easily tore a theropod into sushi pieces and the flamethrowers burn the smaller ones; a raptor stands zero chance against an AK-47; and how about the weaponized jets; helicopters; orbital weapons...etc.

      Weapons are the Common Sense. 

      Yeah but it's hard to use those weapons on a city street when you have tons of people who need help. Any explosion and more people could be killed than dinosaurs. Also, we don't even know how a human would react to a pack of Allosaurus charging at them. All Dinoanime said was tanks and guns, that wouldn't help much against a charging herd of Bruhathkayosaurus. And besides, the humans would struggle to fight off dromaeosaurs and medium carnivores and since there are so many I doubt they could be fast enough to stop them like they would in a movie. And there would be more "Clever girl" moments than you can count. Raptors are smart.

      Don't forget to imagine a herd of 10,000-20,000 Edmonotosaurus charging at you.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote:

      Hypnobrai wrote:

      The dragnor wrote:
      Ibarber wrote:
      The dragnor wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote: No chemical weapons or biological weapons. Just tanks and guns.

      Theropods would most likely loose on the human inhabited areas but the extremely forested areas like amazon; congo; would become uninhabited by human as Theropods would claim those areas; smaller dinosaurs would become almost pest-like; similiar to the huge pigeon populations of urban cities today; speculatively
      Dude are you literally serious? There are many theropods that were adapted to open areas, the city or town to a Raptor or a T.Rex respectively will be like a field day to them, even if they can't enter a locked house these predators weren't dumb, they special hunting traits are have prepared against certain obstacles such as buildings, they could just bust right through. These aren't the tail-dragging ferocious we saw in stop-motion documentaries and B-Movie films. These animals would be highly adapted to all these said areas.

      The only true place a human would be safe is in a cave, underground, the trees, or a Fortress, and 3 out of those 4 can only be safe for so long. Meat-Eating theropods scowered across all the biomes in their regions, and even if any did wonder into a city, I'm sure a pack of Allosaurus would create a mass wave of destruction and deaths by the 100s, and that's inadvertently.

      Severely disagreed. United States Military level weapons're allowed. The only things that aren't allowed are nukes/bio & chemical weapons. Just look at the current military level of the planet. Suicidal theropods would be killed off so quickly and so massively; you would be shocked. Ammo; New tech Guns; rockets; launchers; everything is allowed; there would be a blood/gore house caused by humans. Just look at the efficiency of any weapon; theropods couldn't stand a chance; except the runners; rockets and large ammunition weapons would easily tore a theropod into sushi pieces and the flamethrowers burn the smaller ones; a raptor stands zero chance against an AK-47; and how about the weaponized jets; helicopters; orbital weapons...etc.

      Weapons are the Common Sense. 

      Yeah but it's hard to use those weapons on a city street when you have tons of people who need help. Any explosion and more people could be killed than dinosaurs. Also, we don't even know how a human would react to a pack of Allosaurus charging at them. All Dinoanime said was tanks and guns, that wouldn't help much against a charging herd of Bruhathkayosaurus. And besides, the humans would struggle to fight off dromaeosaurs and medium carnivores and since there are so many I doubt they could be fast enough to stop them like they would in a movie. And there would be more "Clever girl" moments than you can count. Raptors are smart.

      Don't forget to imagine a herd of 10,000-20,000 Edmonotosaurus charging at you.

      That could never happen. About 16 or 20 will do.

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    • Um. Actually that could happen.

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    • Also sauropods can do a lot of damage to cities. Hadsaurs will eat our crops. Raptors would break into barns and kill cows, goats, and horses. We have no chance to compete with them.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote:
      Also sauropods can do a lot of damage to cities. Hadsaurs will eat our crops. Raptors would break into barns and kill cows, goats, and horses. We have no chance to compete with them.

      Weapons ? Humans resisted literal plague's. We can handle with giant birbs; except australia

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      • Faceplams*

      Dinosaurs are way bigger than birds. They have thicker skin and can do much more damage. It will be like the Great Emu War but on a much higher scale. Also I forgot to mention, I decided to include Pterodaurs and Marine Reptiles.

      If dinosaur bounty hunting is made, most if not all hunters won't make it out alive. Like Ibarber said, tanks would do nothing from a charging herd of sauropods. We lost the Great Emu War.

      Also if a group of hunters try to hunt an Edmonotosaurus herd, their dead because they can get trampled and not to mention, Edmonotosaurus and Triceratops gathered in mixed herds. So dinosaur bounty hunting would be very difficult.

      Yes, we have drones but dinosaurs can learn our technology. It happened during the Great Goat war. If they hear drones they will flee to the forest, as time goes on. If helicopters are used to hunt dinosaurs, it will work from time to time. But they will learn that the helicopters means the sound of death. The dinosaurs never ruled the earth for nothing. They adapted, survived, and learned more about their environment.

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote:

      • Faceplams*

      Dinosaurs are way bigger than birds. They have thicker skin and can do much more damage. It will be like the Great Emu War but on a much higher scale. Also I forgot to mention, I decided to include Pterodaurs and Marine Reptiles.

      If dinosaur bounty hunting is made, most if not all hunters won't make it out alive. Like Ibarber said, tanks would do nothing from a charging herd of sauropods. We lost the Great Emu War.

      Also if a group of hunters try to hunt an Edmonotosaurus herd, their dead because they can get trampled and not to mention, Edmonotosaurus and Triceratops gathered in mixed herds. So dinosaur bounty hunting would be very difficult.

      Yes, we have drones but dinosaurs can learn our technology. It happened during the Great Goat war. If they hear drones they will flee to the forest, as time goes on. If helicopters are used to hunt dinosaurs, it will work from time to time. But they will learn that the helicopters means the sound of death. The dinosaurs never ruled the earth for nothing. They adapted, survived, and learned more about their environment.

      double facepalm

      Than I could include the most deadly - yet - not nuclear type of bullets These bullet types would easily shatter any thicc skinned animal into pieces; https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/these-are-the-5-most-deadly-types-bullets-24032 If the size and the thicc-ness of the skin would be an issue; we wouldn't be able to hunt corocdiles; hippos; and elephants easily with maasai-level tribal ' technology '. As I pointed out use laser weapons; more agile models of tanks; F-18 esque jets with acid bombs...etc. One side has literally every weapon that a mind has the capacity of imagine; the other side has only size and thick skin; maybe some adaptations.

      dinosaurs can learn our technology But if we gave examples; all large animal species that adapted humans only by getting deformed and/or defenseless; ie. Toothless born elephants of africa.

      Dinosaurs rule the earth only in Jurassic and Cretaceous. Maybe terror birds could be included. But this rule doesn't meant anything as the dinosaur species went extinct only to others replace them

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    • Triple faceplams. 
      

      By the end of the Triassic period, other reptiles began to disappear before the CAMP eruption. Dinosaurs began growing big so they kind of ruled the earth during the end of the Triassic. First of all, have you ever heard of the Great Goat War? Trust me, it's not easy to take down the most successful land vertebrates of all time.

      Also Terror birds are not as strong as a raptor like Utahraptor. Terror birds are relatively easy to take down compared to dinosaurs. Also it's doubtful to tame dinosaurs. Troodons are the most intelligent dinosaurs ever. The next generations of all the dinosaurs can learn and adapt.

      If dinosaurs were lose on mainland, on every single continent and if you have the Marine Reptiles roaming the planet, most modern day animals would go extinct in the first few months. Plus we would mainly have to worry about mid sized carnivores who will eat us many times. Don't say that's unlikely. Like I said a ancient human relative was attacked by an eagle and killed. The eagle at the eye and brain out.

      This will happen with the dinosaurs. Yes, we have drones but it's not going to be helpful since we will have at least 7.5 billion dinosaurs in this scenario. Also some marine Reptiles will cause serious competition with whales. That's why we didn't exist with the dinosaurs. Because we wouldn't be able to compete with them.

      If dinosaurs aren't enough, we have pterosaurs. A Quetzalcoatlus and Hatzegopteryx without a doubt will attack us. I don't about them picking us up and dropping us. Don't say it's impossible because there's some rumors an eagle was known to pick up unluckily humans. Quetzalcoatlus weighs 550-600 pounds.

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    • Also not to mention, if we capture the pterosaurs and put them on an island. They will escape because they can fly over oceans. Some...

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    • Also drones could help but they can get attacked.

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    • Ibarber wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote:
      Actually it was proven. Also I need you're source or I won't agree.
      IMG 3128

      Most scientists agree Tyrannosaurus rex didn't hunt alone. Also Spinosaurus would've been a solitary animal.

      Are people just dumb right now? I think they are.

      Because I never said Tyrannosaurus was a total solitary hunter, and that this "theory" was already proven before it was freaking conceived. We literally have Daspletosaurus, Yutyrannus, Nanotyrannus, and the echelons, Gorgosaurus and Albertosaurus to tell us that Tyrannosaur families hunted in a group. It so damn obvious. But overall that doesn't guarantee it is smarter than Allosaurus in other aspects.

      Also yeah Tyrannosaurus did attack juvenile Alamosaurus, but you don't see in the fossil records showing Alamosaurus specimens dying from Tyrannosaurus attack.

      I'm pretty sure a pack of Tyrannosaurus rex and a pair of Spinosaurus can severely damage the environment. They can easily kill off deers and even elephants.

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    • Read the book Edge of Extinction it is about dinos verse humans. it will tell u all.

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    • Also check out my arachnid wiki type the-spider.wikia.com/

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    • my wiki needs help.

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    • I don't it will help. We are talking about every single dinosaur species. The outcome would be very different than a book. The Great Emu War will welp you more. Trust me. Watch the video Ibarber send us. We lost the Great Emu War thanks to their 65 million year instinct. Also not every human would have weapons. If we are in war and the dinosaurs were able to take over the earth. We would have to live. If we were able to colonize mars then we would live there for the rest of our lives until when they go extinct.

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    • Also if we look realistically, we would leave planet earth or go extinct.

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    • Kadenrex808 wrote: Read the book Edge of Extinction it is about dinos verse humans. it will tell u all.

      I just read the book and to be honest it's very realistic.

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    • I would say they would win if it was Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. If we are including every species, then Dinosaurs will win. The truth is most humans don't know how to fight. Also I suggest reading Edge Of Extinction. It has a very accurate outcome if there's many dinosaurs roaming the planet.

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    • I personally think it would sort of be a draw.We would all wipe each other out.

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    • Ibarber wrote:
      Four words

      The Great Emu War of 1932

      Sam O'Nella Academy's video

      That's 5 words.

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    • Registe0 wrote: I personally think it would sort of be a draw.We would all wipe each other out.

      I kinda have to agree on that, I’m Dinoanime1234 btw. My computer crashed and my other accounts got signed out so yeah.

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    • Not mention, we don’t know every dinosaur species. So it’s kinda unfair...

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    • I think the dinosaurs wouldn't really care as long as we left them alone, they are like modern animals, lions, wolves, etc. If primitive humans could hunt massive species to extinction, we could mosty definitely hunt dinosaurs to extinction, unless some large group of vegans begin protesting or something.

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    • MikeShatter150 wrote: I think the dinosaurs wouldn't really care as long as we left them alone, they are like modern animals, lions, wolves, etc. If primitive humans could hunt massive species to extinction, we could mosty definitely hunt dinosaurs to extinction, unless some large group of vegans begin protesting or something.

      Exactly; primitive humans hüner mamooths; massive mammals and even large predators to extinction

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    • Mammals are no good example to dinosaurs. Humans never faced any land predator that weighed over 1 ton.

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    • Dinoanime7 wrote: Mammals are no good example to dinosaurs. Humans never faced any land predator that weighed over 1 ton.

      Aboriginals've likely sene megalania; might even sene quikana However; since this is an all-dinosaurs included list; large and hostile herbivores are a good example. I read humans've hunted pretty large and agile predators that were close to a ton; like largest specimens of eurasian/chukota bears. Considering that the mammalians're more faster that most species of dinosaurs; an Ak47 or a hand granade would be capable of fighting them off

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    • But you know that we haven’t discovered every dinosaur species right. There’s over a thousand species, perhaps even in the ten thousands. Yeah we have seen large mammals and fought them, but listen dinosaurs and mammals are different. If you look at the Great Emu war, humans lost, that’s one species, but you are talking about ten thousand species of dinosaurs going against mankind.

      Tanks and guns would kill some but against an entire population I call that bull****.

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    • +Dinoanime7 True on entire populations; but humans; with modern technology/weaponry - without any biologically engineered virus (which scientist can do now; I recently read they developed a fungus spore against mosqitoes) - humans could've kill so much of these animals; their populations'll stagnate and they'll learn to avoid humans to death; just like the zebra & wilderbeest; those two were acrually didn't escape from english until rifles started to be brought onto them

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    • Um, if your including every dinosaur species you can likely see neighborhoods and towns getting overrun by dinosaurs.

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    • By the time that happens a lot of them would be hunted to extinction.

      It also depends on which era, Triassic had the least dinosaurs, whilst Cretaceous had the most.

      It is your thread so you would decide.

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    • If dinosaurs didn't go extinct 65 MYA, then humans would have never existed, because dinosaurs would have hunted the precursors (early mammals) to extinction.

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    • MikeShatter150 wrote: By the time that happens a lot of them would be hunted to extinction.

      It also depends on which era, Triassic had the least dinosaurs, whilst Cretaceous had the most.

      It is your thread so you would decide.

      We are including every single non avian dinosaur species, and we have thousands of more undiscovered. In fact, we are discovering new dinosaurs everyday, the reason why we don’t have any news is because they have to study the fossil and clean the fossil, it took a decade for Scotty to be studied clearly.

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    • MikeShatter150 wrote: If dinosaurs didn't go extinct 65 MYA, then humans would have never existed, because dinosaurs would have hunted the precursors (early mammals) to extinction.

      And we wouldn’t be able to compete with them. They were here before us, and if they somehow came back Primeval, some species we never discovered, remember 99% of all species that existed don’t fossilize. So if they come back, they will be here after us. Yes we have the military, but they won’t go after them until they go into a city.

      Yes we have biological weapons, but we won’t use it on them because it’s too risky. We have nukes yeah, but we won’t use them to kill off dinosaurs. Explosions will kill more people than dinosaurs, since they are more durable, it’s too risky. If we look realistic, they will only send armored vehicles and fighter jets to go find them.

      They can’t throw nukes, it will cause more harm than good. If we look at nuclear blast, birds actually survive in radiation, since dinosaurs are very similar to birds, they can survive, at least many. But I have to agree on you there.

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    • Elon musk would send everyone to mars and then nuke the planet.

      In all seriousness, Humans would win, No doubt, we have guns made for taking down elephants, we have 5000 ton bombs that have literally dented mountains, besides, EVERY SINGLE DINOSAUR ISN'T GONNA GO NUTS AND KILL HUMANS, most dinosaurs would leave the humans alone, there are WAY more herbivores than carnivores, and plenty of the carnivores are like chicken with teeth.

      I guarantee you if dinosaurs suddently appeared and attacked us, we would drive a lot of them to extinction.

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    • True. But if you look at the Great Emu War. If we look realistically, yes there would be dinosaurs killing people. That’s a fact, but what I’m saying is that once they get teleported to the modern world, they will be confused, they never seen a car honking or humans or whatever. It’s likely that the government will just take them to a safe area like a forest, but they will take over the environment, but we won’t use nukes. We don’t want to destroy the environment.

      An average dinosaur is physically stronger than a human, it depends which dinosaur your talking about. Ceratopsians were gentle giants but if disturbed they will attack you like what happen to elephants today. Also if we are talking about Primeval style, there would be a lot of trouble, it takes time for the military to come. I do not think humans would win even though we have nukes, there’s things we can’t use in nature it’s too risky. Also nuking Mars is different, we have life here. We even ban doing nuclear testing because it was very bad for us and nature, but people still do it so yeah. But if you want to get a full sense I suggest reading about the Great Emu War.

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    • I wasn't talking about nuking mars, i was talking about nuking earth.

      Dinosaurs are idiots, they are brain dead, IT TAKES A T-REX FOUR SECONDS TO TURN TO ITS RIGHT, A human could outrun most raptors, We would most likely send these dinosaurs to remote forests and islands, and if they bother us in cities and towns, we will annihilate them back to their nature reserves in the forest.

      There is absolutely no WAY that dinosaurs could win, they have the brain of an ostrich.

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    • MikeShatter150 wrote: I wasn't talking about nuking mars, i was talking about nuking earth.

      Dinosaurs are idiots, they are brain dead, IT TAKES A T-REX FOUR SECONDS TO TURN TO ITS RIGHT, A human could outrun most raptors, We would most likely send these dinosaurs to remote forests and islands, and if they bother us in cities and towns, we will annihilate them back to their nature reserves in the forest.

      There is absolutely no WAY that dinosaurs could win, they have the brain of an ostrich.

      Well, that’s surprise of the century, but no. They aren’t brain dead, if you read Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs, the smartest dinosaurs were actually as smart as primates. Humans can outrun raptors, but you forgot one thing. They have air sacs, unlike us, that’s why we get tired after running a while because we use extra energy to breath the air out. Also listen, I think your overrating humans a little and underrating dinosaurs a little, dinosaurs don’t have brain of an ostrich, tell that to the Ankylosaurus, bad joke.

      However annihilating them seems overrated. The fact your using is literally from old dinosaur books. I’ve seen no scientist say that today.

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    • Also it takes a T.rex four seconds to turn is because how the tail is designed. The tail is stiff and made of muscle, so it wasn’t good at turning.

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    • You do not need to remind me of the thing I just told you.

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    • Dinosaurs look awesome and all, but imo, they cant beat seven billion humans, with rifles and guns and shotguns and machien guns and bombs and nuclear devices and literally genetic diseases used for mass extinction.

      Just look at the passenger pidgeon, its had a HUGE population, and humans started to get tired of them eating all of their crops in a matter of hours, these pidgeons are tiny, yet humans hunted them to extinction with rifles.

      Theres no way dinosaurs could win against modern day humans, let alone ones that have a WHOLE SEASON for hunting.

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    • MikeShatter150 wrote: Dinosaurs look awesome and all, but imo, they cant beat seven billion humans, with rifles and guns and shotguns and machien guns and bombs and nuclear devices and literally genetic diseases used for mass extinction.

      Just look at the passenger pidgeon, its had a HUGE population, and humans started to get tired of them eating all of their crops in a matter of hours, these pidgeons are tiny, yet humans hunted them to extinction with rifles.

      Theres no way dinosaurs could win against modern day humans, let alone ones that have a WHOLE SEASON for hunting.

      Dude what i’m saying is not all humans in this scenario had guns. Dude, the only things we are using realistic are guns, tanks, and fighter jets that’s it.

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    • Who do you think would win? 2 million chinese soldiers who don't care about the environment, or some tarbosaurs and a bunch of herbivores?

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    • Depends which environment, in a jungle, the humans would stand no chance, in fact since we are including every single dinosaur species in existence including the ones we have never discovered, I can’t see humanity winning.

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    • If the dinosaurs are in the jungle, whats the point of fighting them?

      I'm just saying there is a chance that no one will win, the dinosaurs might be send to jungles and remote islands off the coast.

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    • In all honesty, this is a very intriguing discussion, and we both have very good arguments, but we might not ever know the outcome, we all have our opinions and thoughts, although our rude behavior is not a way to settle this, I apologize.

      In my opinion I believe that humans would win if there was ever a need to war with these mere animals.

      And in your opinion humans would fall to the might of these prehistoric creatures.

      But again, we will never know the outcome unless scientists or something bring back these animals.

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    • MikeShatter150 wrote: In all honesty, this is a very intriguing discussion, and we both have very good arguments, but we might not ever know the outcome, we all have our opinions and thoughts, although our rude behavior is not a way to settle this, I apologize.

      In my opinion I believe that humans would win if there was ever a need to war with these mere animals.

      And in your opinion humans would fall to the might of these prehistoric creatures.

      But again, we will never know the outcome unless scientists or something bring back these animals.

      Yeah. Good point. Let’s just let this debate rest.

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    • It depends, a group of humans would be stronger than óne dinosaur, but one dinosaur ( T. Rex, Spinosaurus) would win of one human. A pack of Velociraptors or Deinonychussen or something would win together also of one human. It depends on how you look at it, say it. 

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    • Dinoanime1234 wrote:,Troodon, several Raptor species, and Tyrannosaurus rex are the most intelligent dinosaurs. They can learn our weaknesses. That what animals do, they try to learn our weaknesses. If they can find our weaknesses then we're going to lose if. If they don't then I don't know who would win.
      Um.... no. T. rex was as intelligent as a monkey. Stop getting all your info from Steven Spielberg.
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    • If the dinosaurs are similar to ones from JP and JW, we're fucked. Otherwise, we'll kill each other off.

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    • DeinonychusDarius wrote:

      Dinoanime1234 wrote:,Troodon, several Raptor species, and Tyrannosaurus rex are the most intelligent dinosaurs. They can learn our weaknesses. That what animals do, they try to learn our weaknesses. If they can find our weaknesses then we're going to lose if. If they don't then I don't know who would win.
      Um.... no. T. rex was as intelligent as a monkey. Stop getting all your info from Steven Spielberg.

      I didn’t even get it from Steve Spielberg, please choose words carefully.

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    • DeinonychusDarius wrote: If the dinosaurs are similar to ones from JP and JW, we're fucked. Otherwise, we'll kill each other off.

      This tells me you haven’t heard of the Emu War, emus, are Dinosaurs, so we gotta talk about them. We lost against Emus. True story. Be glad no animals declared war on us because if they did, we wouldn’t even exist.

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